How to tell when your Seiko watch was made (Part 1)

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So, you've just purchased a used or new Seiko watch. Congratulations!  Have you ever wondered when your watch rolled off the assembly line at the factory? In other words, when was it manufactured? Questions relating to the production date of Seikos frequently pop up in various watch forums from time to time.

Well, in case you didn't know this, the answer to this question actually lies in the set of numbers that are etched or printed on every Seiko watch made. Chances are if you ask watch store assistants when that particular Seiko watch you're interested in buying was made, you'll get a blank expression from them. Either that, or they'll come up with an excuse for not knowing by saying that it's a new arrival (yeah, right!) icon smileHow to tell when your Seiko watch was made (Part 1)

 

You can't really blame them for not knowing because watch sellers are in the business of selling watches, period. From my experience many Seiko dealers aren't watch enthusiasts themselves. They're more interested to get a sale from you rather than discuss the history or significance of that Seiko watch that you're looking to purchase.

Well, I'm a firm believer that knowledge is power. And if you have that knowledge, you have an edge over the seller that could be very useful. Especially when it comes to bargaining for a better price for that new, old stock (NOS) Seiko that caught your fancy.

 

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File photo of a typical watch store in Kuala Lumpur. Chances are that the female store owner in the picture doesn't even know when the Seiko watches in her shop were made, icon smileHow to tell when your Seiko watch was made (Part 1)

 

If the store owner senses that you know more about that watch than he or she does, there's a good chance that you can bargain for a more realistic price. I have gotten a few discontinued Seikos in this manner, saying "Hey look, this watch is eight years old! It can't be worth the price you're quoting me!"

Fortunately for me, the watch dealers relented to my counter offers and I got them for the price that I wanted.. They probably figured out it's better to sell off the watch now than risk their capital tied up in old stock that nobody else is interested in.

Let's find out how to date your Seiko watch and I don't mean socially! icon winkHow to tell when your Seiko watch was made (Part 1)

 

 

Where to look for the serial number

To locate the serial number, you'll need to flip over your watch and examine its caseback. Seikos with solid casebacks (plastic, stainless steel or titanium) will have the 6-digit serial number etched in a straight line. Those that come with glass display backs like modern Seiko 5's have the numbers printed horizontally on the glass display back but the numbers are usually faint and difficult to read.

Higher end Seikos with display backs, like the 6R15 caliber Premier or 7L22 Sportura for example, have the serial number engraved not on the glass but on of caseback's rim.

Here are three examples of Seiko casebacks depicting their serial numbers.

 

Type I: Seiko 5 glass display back:

 

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Basic Seiko 5 models made from the year 2002 onwards have clear glass display backs as you can see above. The 6-digit serial number is always located at the opposite end of the "SEIKO" text. The numbers are faintly stamped from the inside of the glass. You'll have to tilt the caseback towards the light to read the numbers properly or better still, use a magnifying glass. The Seiko 5 in this picture is from February 2004. 

Update: Some very recent model Seiko 5s have the serial number printed not on the glass but along the caseback rim. If you can’t see the serial number on the glass, then look for them on the caseback rim (usually located on at the bottom part of the caseback).

I guess  Seiko decided that it’s easier and cheaper to produce spare display backs without having to etch the serial number individually

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Type II: Display backs on higher end models:

 

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In more expensive Seikos with glass display backs like the Premier 6R20 pictured above, the serial number is usually found engraved along the rim of the caseback. Unlike the rest of the identifying text, the serial number is printed in a straight line. Why doesn't the serial number follow the curvature of the rim? I'm not sure but I think casebacks are manufactured en masse and the individual serial numbers are stamped on later prior to packing and shipping from the factory. Anyway, the Premier pictured above was made in August 2007.

 

 

Type III: Solid metal caseback

 

 

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The majority of Seiko watches come with solid metal casebacks (stainless steel, solid gold, gold plated or titanium) and the serial numbers are also stamped in a straight line. Pictured above is a the caseback of an SKX007K Seiko dive watch. Reading numbers off solid metal casebacks is pretty straightforward. The Seiko diver above is from November 2003.

 

 

 

How to the serial number works

Every Seiko watch manufactured is given a 6-digit serial number. There are however exceptions to this rule. Seiko watches made prior to the late 1960s, most probably 1967 have 7-digit serial numbers instead. Limited edition models with unique sequenced numbering, e.g. 123/300 (denoting the 123rd piece out of a total of 300 pieces) usually don't have serial numbers.

Limited edition Seikos are usually made within a very short time frame - perhaps not more than a few months in the year it was introduced. In this case you'll need to know the intimate history of the model - for example, the SBDX005 Historical Collection 600m diver was released in 2000 with 1,000 pieces made. You may not know the exact month the watch was made but suffice to say, the production year couldn't be any later or earlier than 2000.

 

To simplify things, I will use the 6-digit serial number convention. This table below describes the structure of the serial number.

 

Digit Position Description Characters used Notes
1 Production year 0 to 9 Denotes the year in the decade, not absolute year
2 Production month 1 to 9, "0", "N" and "D" 1 to 9 denotes months of January to October. "0", "N"  and"D" denotes October, November and December respectively
3 Sequence number, thousands 0 to 9 The last four digits represent the running number of the watch
4 Sequence number, hundreds 0 to 9  
5 Sequence number, tens 0 to 9  
6 Sequence number, ones 0 to 9  

 

 

Deciphering the serial number

 

The following table below gives examples on how the serial numbers are interpreted:

 

Caliber Serial Number Year Month Watch Number
7S26A 717872 1997 January 7872
7T32 8N1030 1998 November 1030
6105 200421 1972 October 421
6138 731999 1977 March 1999
6309 4D8001 1984 December 8001
8L35 259393 2002 May 9393
7S26B 760023 2007 June 23

 

 

 

Jayhawk's Production Date Calculator

Fortunately there is an automated method of determining when your Seiko was made. Savvy Seiko watch enthusiasts have been using Jayhawk's Production Date Calculator to check when their watches were made. It's linked from the Seiko & Citizen Forum and to my best knowledge, it is currently the only automated tool for dating your Seiko watch on the Internet.

It's easy to use - just enter your movement number and the serial number and hit the Calculate button. There you have it - your watch's date returned to you in a matter of seconds! icon smileHow to tell when your Seiko watch was made (Part 1)

However, there are a few caveats that you need to know when using the Production Date Calculator:

 

 

The problem lies in Seiko's numbering convention as it used only one digit to represent the year. The first digit only signifies the year number in a certain decade (10 years). While it is true that Seiko movements are discontinued in less than a decade, there are however, some exceptions to the norm.

A well known example is its very popular 7s26 automatic caliber. If you enter a serial number beginning with "7" or "8" for a post-2000 made 7s26, the date calculator will return you the years 1997 or 1998 respectively, which is off by a whopping 10 years! Even if you are certain that your watch was made in 2006, the date calculator will still think that it was made in 1996.

 

Here's why: 

The Production Date Calculator unfortunately doesn't have the ability to account for calibers that have been made for a decade or longer. It merely checks the first digit in the serial number (the year of production) and compares it with its internal table of calibers with the starting year. Since Seiko uses only one digit to denote the production year, the calculator cannot determine the exact decade the watch was manufactured.

For instance, 7s26a caliber was first introduced in 1996 and therefore it naturally assumes that it was from the 1990s. The replacement 7s26b caliber however, came out in late 2006 but the production calculator does not take this into consideration.

 

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Caseback dating dilemma: Was this Seiko 5 Superior from January 1997 or January 2007? It’s actually from 1997.

 

 

Manually dating a Seiko watch

Fortunately, there is an alternative to the Production Date Calculator if it returns you erroneous or dubious results. In order to do this, you will have to date the watch by manual means that can give you an approximation or the exact the decade the watch was made.

If you’re interested in pursuing this topic, learn how to manually date a Seiko watch here.

 

 

Originally posted 2008-06-25 18:11:54.

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Exelente tu nota me ha serviso para constatar la autentidad de Seiko

Hola Daniel,

Yo no hablo español pero muchas gracias por sus comentarios nice! :-)

[...] my previous article on how to date your Seiko watch, I mentioned the nifty Jayhawk’s Production Date Calculator. [...]

the most thorough and simplified source of Seiko
watch information that I've found
... and I've been doing a lot of research on this.
Thanks!

Thanks for your comments, Irma. :-) I wrote the article with the layman in mind, actually. Glad you enjoyed it!

Quartzimodo.

[...] my previous article on how to date your Seiko watch, I mentioned the nifty Jayhawk’s Production Date Calculator. [...]

muchas gracias, muy buena explicacion de mi reciente adquision....se agradece....una saludo desdee chile

Usted es muy bienvenido, señor! :-)

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Labas,

Atsiprašau, aš nesuprantu J?s? klausim? kaip lietuvi? n?ra mano šnekamoji kalba. Kas tai, kad esate prašoma iš tikr?j??

Quartzimodo Admin.

Wonderful article.
All is really clear now.
I linked this page in a Italian forum of watches collectors ;)
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Thank a lot.

Paolo

Glad you liked the post, Paolo! Grazie mille! :-)

salute,
Quartzimodo Admin.

very useful info, thx!

thank you for the info!

I have a Seiko 5, and I can't understand if it is original or not. The serial number is 010738, and I think -not sure- the number of the model is ky 7S26-3180 with a 'F' into a square. Would you like help me please? (Excuse my english!)

Hi Carlos,

I'm sure your watch is an original Seiko. What is the color of your watch dial?

Quartzimodo Admin.

Hello, I'm trying to identify/value my mother-in-law's Seiko that she purchased while living in Okinawa in the '70s. (Jayhawk's calendar indicates it was made April, 1970 - thank you for providing the link) Can you help? Front reads: Seiko Matic Lady, 21 jewels, Japan 2517, (unable to read)AD. The back reads: Stainless Steel, 2517-3201, Waterproof, Seiko, 046354, O.P. Where the band attaches it reads: 2517 320B and the clasp: Seiko LS. Thank you for any help.

Hello Debra,

Unfortunately I'm not very knowledgeable in vintage Seiko watches for ladies. Seiko made myriad calibers for their ladies' watches since the late 1960s and many of them I don't know about. From your description, your mum-in-law's watch has the 2517 movement or caliber in it. "Waterproof" is about right as Seiko labeled their products "water proof" until early 1971, when they switched to "water resistant" labeling instead.

I would say Jayhawk's database gave you the correct production date - April 1970. The watch also has a 6-digit serial number, which means it couldn't have been made earlier than 1968 (therefore 1960 is definitely out of the question).

Hope this sheds some light! :-)

Quartzimodo.

you are genius!!!

Thank you, Joh... I'll take it as a compliment. ;-)

In all honesty, my writings are the result of years of spending time on watch forums and collecting watches, really. I don't think I will ever qualify as a "genius".

Quartzimodo.

You are most generous to share your expertise. Had to laugh at myself when I read in your blog about your first watch. I remember how many times I took my first watch to be repaired. Finally the watch repairman told me it wasn't worth the money I was spending to have it fixed.

Hello,i am amit from india recently i purchased an used SEIKO SPORTURA CHRONOGRPH Watch,on its backside the serial number mentioned is 236366 and the movement no. is 7t32-gmoo.Few days later i saw a similar piece,whose serial no. was also the same 236366.Now i would like to know if there can be same serial no. for two or more watches?Please reply ASAP.

Hi! its me again,i would like to ask you one more thing, how can i find out if my seiko watch is an original or a replica?

Namaste, Amit!

As far as I know, there is no record of a Seiko with the caseback number "7T32-GMOO". Perhaps you read it incorrectly? However, there is such thing as a Seiko watch with the caseback number 7T32-6M00 (zeroes at the end, not the letter "O"). It's an old model dating to the early 2000s. However, the 7T32-6M00 is a generic Seiko 7T32 alarm chrono and does not belong to the Sportura family.

All Seiko products, inclusive of watches and clocks have their own unique serial number. There should not be duplication of serial numbers (for the same watch model) under any circumstances.

Please contact me via the form if you require further assistance.

Quartzimodo.

Amit, you'll have to provide a link to clear images of your watch (front and back) if you'd like me to ascertain if your watch is genuine.

best regards,

Quartzimodo

Hello Amit and Quartzimodo,
I have just got the same watch that Amit described with a white dial. The back of the watch says 7T32 but it looks very much like a 7T62 (That is, it has only two push buttons on one side of the watch). It looks very much like an SNA451, except that the dual time' hour hand is red.
I think it is a fake. It was given to me as a present from which was bought from Iran from a reputable watch store.
Any comments?

Hi Moji,

Without seeing actual photos of your watch, I think your Seiko's caseback was somehow swapped with one from a 7T32. For instance, the basic design of the generic Seiko SDWF83P (7T32) is identical to the SNA205P (7T62), which is attached to the Sportura family. Of course, the 7T32 would have a three-pusher and two-crown layout, unlike the 7T62.

I find it odd that a reputable store would sell a brand new watch with an incorrect caseback. Hmmm...

Quartzimodo.

Hi there

I found your site as I have been trying to date two Seiko 5s. One was my Dad's DX 25 jewels(1967)and the other a gold one given to me by an aunt in New Zealand when I was kid in the seventies (1975). Thanks to your site I have been able to date them to the month and year.

It was exciting to find there is someone like you with so much knowledge and making it available on the web! Keep up the great work and all the best with your site.

Richard
Leeds UK

Hi Richard,

I am glad that you've been able to find the production month of year of your Seiko 5 DX. Some old Seiko watches are tricky to date as nobody really knows when the movement was first introduced and ceased production. This is when anachronisms come into play and knowing the styling of the particular watch can narrow down the possible decades. For example, Seiko automatics were minimally produced in the 1980s in favour of quartz technology, which was Seiko's highest selling point at the time. The "DX" series certainly had long disappeared from the market in the 80s, so that would leave the 1970s and earlier.

And thank you for your generous comments. :-)

Quartzimodo.

I have a 7T32 watch gold case w/gold face. The numbers on the back are 7T32-6A5A, but the numbers on the face are 7T32-6A7L. I've not seen any others w/gold on gold. This watch has run perfectly for over 17 years. I dtaed it to being made in 1991 and was wondering how many of this particular style/coloring were made.

Hi Tom,

The 7T32 was one of Seiko's finest alarm chronograph calibers and many enthusiasts prefer 7T32s over the currently produced 7T62. I have three 7T32s myself. With regards to your 7T32-6A5A model, Seiko made 9 variants altogether. Out of the nine, three models were all-gold plated: the SDW510J, SDW444P and the SDW010J.

Since your dial states "7T32-6A7L", your model is either the SDW010J or the SDW510J (both share the same dial code). The caseback should indicate "SGP", meaning "Seiko Gold Plated". They were both assembled in Japan. 1991 should be the correct year for a 7T32 with the reference letters "SDW".

Hope this answers your question! :-)

Quartzimodo

Hi Quartzimodo
I have finally managed to take a couple of photos of my Seiko. Could you give me any info on that please. I think Amit's Seiko is the same. Sounds like we bought the same copy.

By the way, How can I load the photos on this site?

Regards

Moji

Hi Moji,

As this might mean a rather lengthy reply from yours truly, kindly email me using the Contact Form.

Thanks,

Quartzimodo

Hi Quartzimodo
I have Seiko 5 with SN XOXXXX (second position is letter O)
What does it mean?

Hi Dog,

The letter "O" in your serial number represents the month of October in a given year. Thanks for asking!

Quartzimodo Admin.

Hi Quartzimodo again,

but you wrote: "October is represented by the number 0 (zero, not the letter "O")".

Why in the first case it's zero, and in the second it's letter?

Ooops! This is one of the rare occasions that I have let my guard slip. :-(

Yes, it should have been the number zero, not the letter "O". Apologies for my mistake and thanks for spotting it!

Quartzimodo.

hi,I was wondering wether you could help me, I have a seiko watch model 7T32-6A0A serial no 068885, could you tell me when the watch was made and any idea of the value.

thanks

Ian

Ian,

Your gold plated watch was made in June 1990. It was one of the earliest 7T32 models and was 100% made in Japan. Kindly note that the reference number for your model is SDW020J.

I'm unable to give an accurate estimate of your watch's value, but generally dressy gold plated quartz 7T32 Seikos (more especially if they have integrated bracelets) aren't really sought after by collectors. Even in absolute mint condition I'd guess it's probably worth not more than USD250 on the used market.

Only solid gold Seiko timepieces (18 ct gold) from the past hold a much better value - however, the resale value is likely to be influenced by the current price of gold, rather than the watch's significance or rarity.

cheers,

Quartzimodo Admin.

Hi Quartzimodo,
I checked in the Jayhawk’s Production Date Calculator, but the model is not in the database.
This SEIKO watch I bought in Saudi Arabia in 1982 or 1983
Behind the watch is written the following:
SEIKO
ST. STEEL SGP BEZEL
6539 - 5020 RC (in a square)
Japan J
serial is : 272013
I can't see no pictures and no technical comments about this watch... Can you help?
Thanks from France

Bonjour Tristan,

My sincerest apologies for the late reply as somehow comments (including my replies) go into my blog's spam folder. I'm trying finding a solution to this problem. :-(

Here goes:

Your watch is a date-only, standard 32kHz quartz movement with 5 jewels. As with early quartz Seikos, yours was wholly made in Japan.

It takes a Maxell SR920SW battery and is rated to run for 3 years between replacements. It's not a well known movement and my guess is the 6539 caliber appeared between the late 70s to the mid 80s. In your case, your watch was made in July 1982 which is about right for the caliber's era. "SGP" stands for Seiko Gold Plated, which I'm guessing is a two-toned dress watch. "RC" is one of the many case size codes that Seiko uses (there are others, like "A0" and "KY" for example). The exact meaning to the codes is perhaps known only to Seiko Japan.

Seiko made lots of quartz models (especially gents' dress watches) during this period and many of them are not well known throughout Seiko collector communities. Jayhawk's calculator is based upon information on only the popular calibers that he knows, therefore the wealth of his database is not exhaustive. Many watches of lesser known calibers (especially quartz) from the 70s to the 80s do not survive to this day and their owners may have discarded them a long time ago. If existing owners of such watches don't take pictures of their timepieces and post them in watch forums, you can't find images or comments about them in search engines.

Espérons que cela vous a aidé!

Quartzimodo

I have a SGP seiko from the 70's (I think) that is not in your data base. The back has the #'s 6530-5080 ser. # 391275. Can you give me any information about it including the battery size?

Quartzimodo, you're a generous person to provide this service. Seiko should be doing more.

Sorry but I don't know my URL.

what year will a self winding watch be if the seriel numbers are 326248 seiko automatic

Hi Charlotte,

You'll need to furnish me with the caseback code that's found on the rear of your watch. Its format is XXXX-YYYY. Without knowing the caliber, I am unable to determine the production year of your Seiko.

cheers,
Quartzimodo

[...] is another site which I used to determine the logic behind dating Seiko watches judged by SN is: How to tell when your Seiko watch was made (Part 1) This site also says that my watch indeed is produced June 2000! Is it possible that Seiko began [...]

Hi Guys!!!

I just bought two vintage seikos chrono (Pepsi Bezel) and I want to know the production year of each one:

Seiko 6139-6002, serial no. 399984
Seiko 6139-6002, serial no. 4D9177

Hi Joaquin,

Congrats on owning two 6139-6002s! :-) I have one -6002 myself (dark blue dial with a Pepsi toned dial) and am wearing it as I write this. Dating 6139 watches is easy as they were only made in the 1970s. In your case, your watches were made on September 1973 and December 1974 respectively.

The last known 6139 caliber Seiko made was most probably in 1978. Seiko stopped making automatic chronographs since then (not until the mid 1990s) in favor of quartz watches. Hope your calendar quickset mechanism works because the day/date setting mechanism can be prone to failure in vintage 6139s.

Quartzimodo

I have three pendant watches purchased in Japan with serial nos 260106, 240351,and 240326. What is the production dates and a suggested value. thanks

Hi Louise,

I'm sorry to say that I'm not familiar with Seiko pendant watches. Without the caliber type, it's impossible for me to identify when your pendant watches were made. The caliber and case codes should be engraved at the back of the watches. As for the value of your items, if they're made of solid gold (not gold plated) their value would be based on today's gold prices. Have a look at eBay and browse for pendant Seiko watches to get an idea how much they're worth.

Quartzimodo.

very informative and useful blog...thank you friend

My father gave me his watch its serial # is 570304 and Movement # is 8123-5270 i was wondering if you had any information on this style and its not in the greatest of shape and was wondering if i sent it back to Seiko would they be able to clean it up for me?

Hi Aaron,

Your dad's watch is a generic men's quartz dress watch, and the 5-jeweled 8123 day/date caliber was one of the many forgettable quartz movements Seiko made in the 1980s. There's not much I can comment about this model - it's neither an ugly looking nor a unique and eye-catching watch. Seiko service centers generally do not undertake refurbishing jobs like independent watchmakers. In most likelihood the service center will just replace old parts as necessary (assuming the parts are still obtainable from Seiko Japan) and that's about it. The most they can do is to clean up whatever gunk on the dial and inside the watch case. Watch restoration is usually done by watchmakers.

hope this helps,
Quartzimodo

SEIKO v701-5j00 R1 looking for corretc battery. TKS

Hi Bob,

Your Seiko V701 watch takes Seiko or Maxell SR621W or Energizer #364 1.55 volt silver oxide cells. The V701's battery life is rated to 2 years.

hope this helps,
Quartzimodo

i am trying to find a band for my seiko watch number 157456

Hi Bobby,

I need to know the model numbers of your watch. It's on your caseback, in the form of XXXX-YYYY. The number you supplied is your watch's serial number. That would be like walking into an automotive spare parts retailer and telling the clerk you want a replacement headlamp for a Toyota without telling him what model your car is but only giving your vehicle registration.

Quartzimodo

MI MADRE ME REGALO UN SEIKO # 7T32-6G79-AD Y LOS OTROS NÚMEROS SON #549680 EL RELO SE ME A DANADO Y QUISIERA COMPRAR UNO IGUAL ADONDE LO PUDIERA COMPRAR?

Hola Javier,

El calibre 7T32 relojes Seiko son largos descatalogado y no se vende más. Tienes que buscar una que se utiliza como el modelo en eBay o en cualquiera de los sitios web de comercio como el reloj de pulsera SCTP.

Lo siento, pero no te puedo ayudar mucho aquí. El español no es mi idioma por lo que mi traducción no puede ser buena.

Quartzimodo

Hi, the info you posted are very helpful, but I am confused on how we can understand the year that watch is manufactured. I have 2 Seiko Quartz (SQ) one of them has number: 160042 and the other 641639. both of them must be very old because they were my grandfather's..So I don't know if it is 1961,1971,1981,1991,2001 etc... or 1966,1976 etc... can you please help me? Do these watches worth money and what would be aproximately a price? (both are in very good condition) Thank you so much..

Hi Jim,

A Seiko watch's production year can be pinpointed or narrowed down when these two conditions are met:

1. Supplying the caliber and case code, which is found on the watch's caseback in the format of XXXX-YYYY
2. The six-digit serial number and optionally, the actual images of the watch.

Without knowing the caliber code, I can definitely rule out the 1960s because Seiko didn't invent quartz watches yet. Seiko "SQ" models only appeared from the late 1970s onwards up until towards the end of the 1990s and therefore the year 1976 would be an anachronism. Old Seiko quartz watches generally are not valued by collectors unless they are the 7548, 7549 or H line of Seiko diver's watches or at least, the famous Seiko Astron - the company's inaugural quartz watch. Gent's quartz dress watches usually don't fetch anything more than USD100 unless they were made of solid gold; but then the watch would be worth due to its gold metal and not for the watch itself. Gold plated old Seiko watches don't carry much value either.

When it comes to assaying the value of an old Seiko watch, it all boils down to what it is actually worth to the buyer and not to the seller. Even if the watch's condition is considered to be very good or excellent, if the type of watch is not collectible nobody's going to pay a high price for it.

You can think of watches somewhat like automobiles. All Porsche 911 and Ferrari cars, regardless of the year of manufacture are collectibles (think Rolex and Omega). Are all Honda cars collectible? No, unless you have a discontinued Honda NS-X supercar, a mid 1980's CR-X or certain Type-R Civics, Preludes or Integras. Seriously? Very few people if any at all, would be into collecting old 4-door Honda Civics or Accords from the past except for used car dealers.

Quartzimodo

thanks for these informative details!! I found the numbers in the format XXXX-YYYY:
1) 641639 5H23-8029
2) 160042 7123-5109

Thank you again!

Hi Jim,

I'm not familiar with the 5H23 caliber, I think it your 5H23-8029 may have been made on April 1986. It takes the Seiko or Maxell SR920W or Energizer #371 battery with a whopping 5-year battery life. As for your 7123-5109, it's from June 1981. It requires a Maxell SR1130SW battery, also rated for 5 years between battery changes. Both of your watches were 100% manufactured in Japan and were U.S. export models.

Quartzimodo

HI
I HAVE 2 KINETIC SEIKO
FIRST HAS No 580685 MODEL 4006-6040
SECOND HAS No 710628 MODEL 6138-8020
PLEASE I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT IS THE PRODUCTION DATE AND ASUGGESTED VALUE.THANK YOU

Hi Spyros,

Your watches are not Kinetic but automatic ones. The 4006-6040 is a Bell-Matic mechanical alarm watch and is dated August 1975. Its value depends on its condition but generally should be less than USD200.
As for your 6138-8020 chronograph automatic, it was made on January 1977. 6138s are generally worth more than 4006s. Again, depending on the condition, your 6138's value varies between USD150 to USD250.

Wishing you a Happy New Year,

Quartzimodo

Hi,
I have a Seiko 6020-7040 with SN 931430, could you tell me the production year? it's a very old one I thing, the movement is still using manual wind.. thanks

hi quartzimodo i have read through both of your posts and found them intriguing but still have no idea as to when my seiko watch was made! ive narrowed it down to january 19?5 i think, could you help me out a bit more?

the watch is black and gold with a small square face and a red bottom right hand corner and say seiko quartz. the serial number is 511251 it has a caliber of 7320a i believe and has 5 jewels in it

it also says 7320-6220ro on the back. I noticed some ridiculously small writing on the front of the watch too that reads “japan 7320 1270 T”. the face only has a 12 marker no other time indicators and has a faint grid design

its quite an interesting looking watch and would like to know if it has any value? i doubt it but its worth finding out!

cheers eddie

Hi Dany,

I haven't heard of a 6020 caliber, but if it falls under the Cal. 60 family then you're likely to own a Seiko Goldfeather. If your caliber is actually the 6200, your watch might be the Seiko Liner series. Both are from the early 1960s although it was usual for Seiko to continue selling hand-winding models up to the very early 1970s. In most probability your watch was from March 1969.

Quartzimodo

Hi Eddie,

The 7320 is not a very well known quartz caliber and was used exclusively for Seiko gents' dress watches without any calendar. It's either from January 1985 or 1995 and true, it has 5 jewels in its movement. Vintage quartz dress watches generally have very low resale value as they are not exactly collectible. If it's gold plated its even less collectible as Seiko collectors generally shun gold plated models, preferring all stainless steel ones. The only people who would buy ours are ones who are looking for the exact model they once owned, for nostalgic reasons.

Quartzimodo

its not gold plated but its certainly a watch style i havent seen before so i was wondering if its originality was worth anything haha if not i dont mine:) ill probably keep it as its quite interesting and i found it at the beach when i was about 12:) its only about an inch squared mainly black with no strap atm, a gold 12 but no other markers gold minute and hour hands with no second hand, an odd red corner and seiko quartz written in small gold writing. i dont actually know wether its in a working state at the moment as i have no battery for it but im keeping a look out for a sr616sw battery and i hope it does:)

Hi Eddie,

I don't know if Seiko still makes the SR616SW battery today but other manufacturers like Toshiba and Maxell does manufacture it. Have a look at this site for example. Find a nice leather strap that matches the design of the watch and you're all set. Finder's keepers, right? :-)

best of luck with the watch!
Quartzimodo.

I have a rectangular shaped ladies Seiko watch I think it is gold plated, ... Serial# is 150151 and the other # is 1100-5149 Japan-R I know very little of this watch as it was given to me by a friend. I think it is older but in very good condition, Can you give me any information on this watch.
Thank Yourecen

Hi Leonida,

Sure. You have a Caliber 1100A hand-winding mechanical watch (it's not automatic) that was introduced in the mid 1960s. It runs at 21,600 beats per minute (or six beats per second) which is considered the industry average today. Although this watch is considered rare, it might not be that collectible. Therefore it may not fetch as high as you might hope on the used market, unless your watch is made of 18ct solid gold. A solid gold watch would be worth based on the price of gold rather than for the watch's historical significance. Your watch was made on May 1971.

Quartzimodo

Hi,
I have a seiko sportsmatic cal. 7619 and ser.# 581XXX, can you tell me about the production date? and what should I do if I want to wear the watch for everyday use?..thanx

HI,
I just bought one for my dad. Watch serial is 081399 caliber is 7S36_04SO. I m right to saying that is manufacture on 2010 Aug ? please advise. Thanks

Hi May,

Yes, the watch you've bought for your father is a very recent model - the SKZ312J with a rose gold finish. Seiko didn't make watches with rose gold coating in 2000, therefore August 2010 would be the correct production month and year. The caseback actually reads 04S0. Seiko doesn't use the letter "O" as that can be confused with the number "0" (zero).

Very thoughtful of you to get this nice watch for your dad. :-)

Quartzimodo

Hi Syamil,

It seems you have an old Sportsmatic 5 "DX" series with the 25 jeweled 7619A movement. This is a mid 1960s caliber therefore I would put the date at August 1965. If you want to wear it as your daily timepiece, have your watch serviced or overhauled by an experienced watch repairman or to the Seiko service center in Jakarta (I assume you're from Indonesia). Have all the gaskets replaced and the movement regulated at the same time.

Quartzimodo.

HI,
I just bought one for my dad. Watch serial is 153969 caliber is 7009_876A. I m right to saying that is manufacture on 1991 May ? please advise. Thanks and sorry

Hi Daniel,

The 7009 was a long running caliber that spanned over two decades. I don't know the exact year when the 7009 first debuted. Some say the first 7009s came out in the mid 1970s while others believe 1980 or thereabouts. Therefore there's also the possibility that your watch was made on May 1981 as well and not just May 1991.
When faced with uncertainty I usually look at the picture of the watch (front and back) to look for visual styling clues.

cheers,
Quartzimodo

I have Seiko Premier Chronograph, serial is 242337. To settle an argument, can you tell what the face color is by the info that I just gave you?

Hi Dave,

I drive a Mitsubishi Lancer Coupe with the license plate "ABC 1234G". Can you tell me what color my car is? There's your answer. :-)

Quartzimodo.

LOL!! Seriously,I DO NEED A STRAIGHT ANSWER.

Hi Dave,

Sorry, that was a tongue-in-cheek remark. :-) The answer would be NO. You only mentioned a "Seiko Premier Chronograph" and that's about it. I need the caliber and caseback codes to determine which Premier you're referring to. Then again, a Seiko Premier may have more than one dial color of the same caliber and caseback type. The serial number can only tell when the watch was made, that's all.

Quartzimodo

Would 7T32-7H80 R2 be of any help? Also from the sales receipt the number 454500/SDWG43.

Hi Dave,

Now you're talking. The Seiko Premier SDWG43P's dial color is black with white hands, while its sibling model - the SDWG51P has a dark blue dial also with white hands. Hope the argument is in your favor. :-)

Quartzimodo

Thank you for your help!!!!!!!!!!!

Hi Quartzimodo, I have an older looking ladies rectangular Seiko quartz with caliber and case code 1320-5779. I can't find any info about this watch and was hoping someone could point me in the right direction. The serial # is 3N1501 (3RD YR, NOVEMBER)? The band is gold tone or gold and has a 0551 at each end where it attaches to the watch. I read online that I could take the back off to see the inside to tell if it's real, but I can't get it off. Do you know where I can get information about this watch and others I have? Thanks, Jill

Hi Jill,

The reason that you can't find anything on the Internet about your watch is because nobody bothers to write articles, reviews or publish photos of your model on the Web. Only the popular models and calibers get some form of mention by Seiko collectors. The Caliber 1320A appears to be a discontinued, 6-jeweled quartz movement from the early 1980s. Your watch's movement is rather unique as the hands are electronically set by turning the crown clockwise or anti-clockwise, unlike traditional quartz watches where the hands are mechanically set.

It takes a Seiko TR621SW or its equivalent battery, rated to 3 years between battery changes. I'm not familiar with this caliber. Without seeing photos of your watch, I'm inclined to think that your watch was made on November 1983. The number "0551" denotes the bracelet code for your watch.

I would suggest that you take the opportunity look into the watch at your next battery change, unless you have the proper caseback opener tools to open the back of your watch. If there are no notches on the caseback, there's a remote possibility that your watch case is of a monocoque (one-piece) design, in which access to the movement is from the front via the crystal (highly improbable).

cheers,
Quartzimodo

Hi Quartzimodo,
i have 5 pieces of seiko vintage.now i wear only seiko helmet(chronograph automatic)calibre 6139-7100 serial no 529311.so how to date it?Tq dude...

Hello!

I found my old seiko from my stash, it will do just fine, you should just pull it up. Nr is 750694 og 1520-3700.
I'm just wondering when it is made and what to do with the steel that has become a bit yellow, is there any value in it?
Best Regards
From Ingela

i just picked up a womens Seiko at Good Will the numbers on the back are y150-5n90 and 094079. I cant figure out year or model. Any help please. Thank you.

found this one in a pawn shop for ten doll hairs 300007 7431-5060 rd did i do good

Hi Small,

That's an easy question. Your 6139-7100 was made on February 1975. Wear it in good health, it's a good watch. :-)

Quartzimodo

Hi Alex,

For $10, any working Seiko watch bought from a pawn store is a good deal. :-) I'm not familiar with the 2-jeweled, Cal 7431 Seiko watches, but I guess it's one of the many Seiko simple gents' models with no calendar display. Do note that your watch takes the Seiko TR721SW battery with a 3-year battery life. It's possible that your Seiko was made on October 1983.

Quartzimodo

Any luck with my watch Quartzimodo? Only paid $1.50 for it. Thanks

I have two Seiko watches I am trying to date. I have been to the Date Calculator Site, but it seems to be down. One is serial #7D0126 with case/model 3Y03-0A29. The other is serial #730314, case/model 2P21-5009. Can you help with dating these?

Great blog Quartzimodo. Am I correct in dating a black seiko 7625-8041 6501363 to May 1966? Why the 7 digit serial number? Thanks, Dec

Hi Declan,

There was a period in time when Seiko briefly used 7-digit serial numbers, notably in the mid 1960s. By the end of the decade they reverted to the standard 6-digit serial number which is used to this day. Offhand I have no idea why Seiko used the 7-digit convention.

Your production date is correct though. :-)

Quartzimodo

Hi Heather,

I'm not very familiar with vintage Seiko quartz ladies' watches. My best guess is that the Seiko 3Y03-0A29 is from Dec 1987 while the other one, the 2P21-5009 could date back as far as Mar 1977. I can't tell, as the photo of the 2P21 on your eBay listing page is too small for me to see. :-) Both watches were meant for the U.S. market.

good luck with your sales! :-)
Quartzimodo

Hi Clint,

The y150 quartz caliber was made specifically for ladies' models. I am not familiar with this caliber or how long it lasted in the market. This appears to be a movement from the late 1970s to the end of the 1980s. Your watch may have been manufactured on Sept 1980. For paying just USD1.50 for this watch I'd say you did well. :-)

Quartzimodo

Hi Ingela,

What you have is a vintage hand winding (non-automatic) ladies' Seiko watch from the late 1950s. I'm not sure of the exact year when the Cal 1520 debuted but it appears to have lasted for a decade. Two versions were made - the earlier 1520A with 17 jewels and the updated 1520B with 23 jewels and both had a rather odd beat rate of 19,800 beats/hour (or 5.5 beats per second). Both calibers were manufactured by Seiko's Daini factory (the other being the Suwa factory) and are used for the Seiko "Fine" models for women.

I think your watch uses the 1520B movement and was made on May 1967. Unfortunately this is not a very collectible watch and a quick look on eBay reveals low asking prices of less than USD50.

hope this helps,
Quartzimodo

Thanks for the answer Quartzimodo. I got a few more now my grandfather gave me, along with a Bulova, a few Gruen, and a Milber.

Seiko 4006-7006 098951 Japan J and a 7n43-9048 548251

Thanks Clint

I have a ladies Seiko watch and have been having trouble identifing it. It was my grandmothers and when she passsed I got everything she had. She owned an antique store for many years and I things she aquired it throught her store. The identification on the back is
Seiko
9000114
WGP BACK ST STEEL
10-0180
And under that is has a lighting bolt looking thing that is also on the face a the watch. Baecause the watch face is very small it is hard to see. I also says Japan on the bottem of the watch face.
The head of the watch sees to be made of silver, and I only say this because of the tarnish on it.
Can u help me

Firstly, let me start by complimenting you on your extremely informative site.

My fascination with watches started when I was given my grandfathers Seiko Automatic as a gift. I wasn't very good with working out the time, but it looked pretty good. I also liked the idea that I would never have to buy batteries.

I wore the watch for years and was proud of the watch and it's heritage. Over the years it has been send it in for some repairs and has lost some of it's sparkle, but it is still a favourite of mine - I like the simplicity.

I have tried to work out it's manufacture date etc, but have found very little detail about it. I can tell you the info on the back is 7005-2000; 442003 SGP Back Stainless Steel. It is an Automatic, 17 Jewels. I am tempted to send in in again to have the frame polished and refurbished, but also hesitant in case it is damaged in the process...

Just moving it to read the info on the back has got it going again... thats fine workmanship in my books... Perhaps you can give me more info on this piece.

I have 2 other Seiko's that I wear more regularly as well as a TW Steel Automatic (TW97)
7T92-0HE0 (750212) Blue Dial, Tachymeter
7T86-0AA0 (960978) Premier Chronograph Perpetual

I now have my eyes on the Casio PRG-500T-7.... or the GR20....

Thank you again for the time and research you have put in to answer questions from some of us lesser WIS's

Hi Christine,

I'm not sure what you're asking from me, because you gave a description of your late grandmother's Seiko watch with no direct question. Could you kindly elaborate what it is that you want to know? :-)

Quartzimodo

Hi Clint,

What you have is a Bell-Matic 4006-7006 automatic from Sept 1970 and a 7N43-9048 Seiko Quartz that's probably to have been made on April 1995. Wear them in good health! :-)

Quartzimodo

Hi Quartzimodo,
I am trying to date a Seiko watch that I bought at a yard sale. It is really unique looking. The crystal is not flat but is faceted. The numbers on the back are 481538. 6106-7729. It is a water resistant automatic. Any assistance that you could give me would be greatly appreciated. Have a great day. And thank you in advance. Julie

Ok.... i pretty sure i posted this before...

Hello. i am trying to date a Seiko Automatic, 6119-8090 water proof 951634 Japan J

I got it on E bay, but the seller did not know how old it is.

Hi Julie,

Thanks for asking. Your 6106-7229 is a North American market Seiko watch. The 6106 was one of Seiko's old automatic movements that was able to hack (stop the second hand) upon pulling the crown to the time setting position. Your watch was made on Aug 1974.

cheers,
Quartzimodo

Hello, great site for information on dates. Could you please help me in getting some dates. I have a 7T32 Chrono with serial number: 880814

I also have a 7002 divers with serial number: 060574

Not sure if the 7T32 is 1998 or 2008.

As the 7002 starts with a 0 not sure if its 1990 or 1980

If you could help me with the dates it would be great.

Thank you...

Hi Oscar,

Your 7T32 alarm chronograph was definitely made on Aug 1998 because this movement was discontinued by the year 2001 and replaced with the 7T62 caliber that is in production to this day. As for your 7002 diver, it's from June 1990. Back in 1980, Seiko was still using its predecessor movement for its classic divers - the 6309 caliber.

hope this helps,
Quartzimodo

Hello Quartzimodo, i hava a Seiko 5 21 jewels automatic, 6119-8090 951634 japan J, i got it on E-bay but the seller did not know how old it is. Thank you.

Hi Sal,

You originally posted your question in Part 2 of my article. Please see my reply to you here thank you. :-)

Quartzimodo

Thanks mate the info was of great help:)

I bought my husband a beautiful new slim or flat faced gold Seiko Lassalle watch in the early 80s. I paid $600.00.It is in mint condition. gold flat face still in the original brown velvet case with all the papers. on the back it says base metal, stainless steel back, 9550 5059 Then RO within a square. the band is gold very smooth and sleek with a smooth lock in clasp. I have all the papers including the one year warranty for when it was purchased.It is such a beautiful watch my husband was afraid to wear it. He passed away. I will be selling the watch but want to know more about it.I paid $600.00 when I purchased the watch. Would you please tell me something of the value now for this watch.. Thank you.

I forgot to mention that I also found the numbers 420583 on the back of the watch. The papers also indicates an analogue type Seiko Quartz. I even have the original box the watch and case came in as well. I thought I purchased this earlier than 1980 but not sure. Thank you for your expertise. Anna

I've bought a used Seiko watch at a yard sale,how do I tell if it's a real Seiko watch ? And what is it worth ? The best I can tell the number on the back of the watch is 1314682799 [SK] or 314682799 [SK].Please help'

Hi mcbride,

If your Seiko watch has that many numbers in a row and that you got it from a yard sale or from a flea market, chances are you have a knock-off Seiko watch that's worth no more than what you paid for it. The numbers do not make any sense to me, sorry. :-(

Quartzimodo

Hi Anna,

Sorry for the delayed response because I had to do some research on long discontinued Seiko Lasalle watches. The K. Hattori Watch Company (now known as Seiko Holdings Group) acquired the Jean Lassale brand in the early 1980s and produced a series of ultra-slim quartz watches for men and women. Seiko made the slim 9550A caliber quartz movement specifically for some Seiko Lassale watches. Your late husband's watch was likely to be made on Feb 1984.

As for its value today, I cannot give an estimate because what it's worth is based on the buyer's market. If the watch is made of solid gold (not gold plated), the resale price should reflect on today's gold prices. Please have a look on eBay and see what other people are selling Seiko Lassale watches for. You can see that their asking prices vary from $100 to $600. Very few people collect Seiko Lassale watches and thus, demand for them isn't much.

hope this helps,
Quartzimodo

I have an old Chronograph Seiko Watch going back to the 80's.

Some years ago, the caseback came off and was lost.

The only numbers I can find are inside that read 7A28A.

Also, on the strap are G1032.

Any info about this watch would be appreciated in order to help me get a new caseback.

Hi Barry,

Seiko made a number of 7A28 watches in the past and without the caseback code it's virtually impossible to know which model yours is. Your only recourse is to scout eBay or watch trading classifieds like SCTP for the same watch (or its equivalent) and buy one just to cannibalize its caseback. Sometimes people do sell junked 7A28s for cheaply on eBay for their parts.
That said, I doubt it if Seiko Japan has leftover stocks of the exact caseback for your watch as 7A28s have been long discontinued. It's a long shot but you can try contacting the nearest Seiko service center if they can check with Seiko Japan if one is available.

Good luck!
Quartzimodo

I recently purchased a used Seiko ladies watch. On the back is serial #8D6075, which i thin means it was made in either December 1998 or 2008. The other number on the case is 8Y21-0050 followed by RO (or maybe R0)in a square. First of all, what do those numbers & the RO symbol means? Secondly, instead of a beveled gold dot on its black dial at the 12 o'clock position as are at the 3, 6 & 9 positions, it has some symbol that looks like flames or a crown or a lotus blossom. What is that thing? Thanks for any help you can give!

Hi Linda,

If I'm not mistaken, the symbol that you're referring to is the motif for the long discontinued Seiko Galaxy range of watches. The serial number which you provided points the manufacturing date to Dec 1988. Seiko Galaxy watches during the era were made in Japan by their Seiko Daini factory. The "RO" refers to the Seiko caseback removal tool and/or procedure for the Seiko technician to remove the caseback. Most jewelers and watch stores use generic case openers, therefore the "RO" code doesn't mean a thing to them. :-)

Quartzimodo

I have a Seiko SQ100 Chronograph with TT32-6g20 and 543651 on the back.I am trying to find an alternate movement to put in it as I cannot get a replacement from Seiko. Can you suggest an alternative one.
Regards John.

Hi John,

The 7T32 has been said to be one of Seiko's ultra-successful models and the company made so many models based on this caliber in the past. The problem is that there isn't one like it and perhaps its closest cousin was the rare 7T42, which has an extra feature - a backwards counting 60-minute timer. Your safest bet is to find a donor 7T32 watch instead of settling for alternative calibers.

The best solution is to browse eBay and buy a fully functioning watch (the exterior condition doesn't matter).

Choose one that suits your budget and buy one (confirm with the seller that all of its functions work properly). When you receive the watch, take it to an experienced watch repairer and transplant your old movement with the other watch. I'm not sure if the Seiko service center will do the job because they may have a policy to use only new replacement parts.

good luck! :-)
Quartzimodo

What can you tell me about the V701 series Seiko ladies watches? That model series is hard to find. I can not find it.

Hi Melba,

The V701 caliber is a quartz caliber that was also used in the long discontinued Seiko Galaxy series. It takes the Seiko SR612SW silver oxide cell (or Energizer 364) and runs up to 2 years between battery changes. While the caliber itself was nothing really special (it was one of the very many quartz movements used in Seiko dress watches), the Seiko Galaxy models may be collectible for some folks. You can find V701 watches on eBay from time to time. :-)

Quartzimodo

Just had my grandfathers watch come back to me today and I was trying to find info about it and I ran across your site.

Its a St. Steel back with the following:
4110-5209
6N1166

Hi Barry,

The 4110 caliber was one of Seiko's early analog quartz movements which was introduced in the mid 1970s. There were two versions made; the original 4110A with 2 jewels and an updated one - the 4110B with 3 jewels. The 4110A/B movement uses the UCC 384 silver oxide battery. There are a number of battery manufacturers that make batteries compatible with the UCC 384 (click here for information).

Your grandfather's Seiko was made on Nov 1976 and is a model designed for the U.S. market. 4110s were fitted to dressy Seiko models and at least one model - the 4110-5239 was made from 14-carat solid gold. Technology wise, the Cal 4110 was considered very advanced for its era and not only the movement is ultra-thin, it is also endowed with a thermo-compensating device to correct for quartz oscillator drift caused by fluctuations in ambient temperature. (Quartz watches tend to run slightly fast in cooler environments and vice versa). Although today's mainstream quartz movements are more accurate without needing thermal compensation, in its time the 4110 was one of Seiko's High End Quartz (HEQ) movements.

cheers,
Quartzimodo

Was trying to figure out for some time just what kind and when my watch was made. I bought my Seiko in a garage sale for $1 about 20 years ago.
Seen your site and hope I can get some info on it. My wife doesn't like the watch but I love it, it has been one of the best watches I have owned. I told her they (Seiko) are good watches but she doesn't believe me.
On the back of the watch are the numbers 073114.
Also 8223-8019[A6]

Thank you for your time!

I HAVE a Seiko ladies watch which was my grandmothers, serial number is 063900. movement number is 3y03. case number is 0160 a4..

Can you tell how old it is it has a gold face.If that helps...

Thanks Peel

Hi , first of all thank you for your explanations about the " How to tell when your Seiko watch was made " , second I have a Seiko dive 6309 7040 serial 952764 and has a weird second language , it is not japanese looks like arabic cloud you explain that thank you....

Wow. Great site!
My father recently (after many subtle hints) gave me his Seiko DX Automatic 25 Jewels. The bracelet (original) is metal, kind of like the kind old armour suits were made of, only finer (does that explain what I mean?) Thanks to his story of when he got it and your help, I've pinpointed the date of production to December 1969, watch number 593. Some questions:
25 jewels. Means what?
Model nr is 6106-5410. Can't find much about it on the net. Anyone know something about it?
Worth?

Wow. Great site!
My father recently (after many subtle hints) gave me his Seiko DX Automatic 25 Jewels. The bracelet (original) is metal, kind of like the kind old armour suits were made of, only finer (does that explain what I mean?) Thanks to his story of when he got it and your help, I've pinpointed the date of production to December 1969, watch number 593. Some questions:
25 jewels. What does it mean?
Model nr is 6106-5410. Can't find much about it on the net. Anyone know something about it?
Worth?

Hi Peel,

I'm sorry to take a long time to reply to your question. After doing some research, I found that I couldn't find much info on the 3Y03 quartz caliber, but I'm inclined to estimate your grandmother's watch's production date to be June 1980 making it exactly 31 years old. Other than that I can't tell much more. It was one of Seiko's numerous and forgettable ladies' quartz watches in its time.

Quartzimodo.

Hi Gustavo,

AFAIK, the 6309-7040 diver's watch was made for the international export market and was not sold in Japan itself. There is another version of this watch - it's the rare and highly sought after, 6306-7001 which looks exactly like your 6309-7040, except that it has a hacking movement, which allows you to freeze the second hand to synchronize the time. The 6306-7001 was sold only in Japan and therefore its calendar was in English and Kanji (Japanese). So far I have not seen an original, unmodified 6309-7040 diver with English/Kanji calendar.

Your watch may be for the Middle East market. The secondary language is most probably Arabic, if not Farsi (for the Iranian market).

Quartzimodo

I have an unusual Seiko Lady's Watch on Ebay right now, and it is not getting the hits I think it should. Can anyone tell me how to properly discribe this wathch? Please!
The item number is 220795295621. 2P20-5359 650822
From reading the above, I now know it was made in May of 1986 and it was the 822 one made that month, but the face is very unusual. It is grey with a reddish or maroon block in the lower right side. Thank you for any help you can give. My wife won it in a sales contest at JC Penny's and said that she never saw or sold another one that looked like this. Thanks again. John

Hi Freddie,

Thanks for the comments. Your Seiko 5 DX uses the first generation 6106A caliber, which was fitted with 25 jewels. There are two other variants of the 6106 caliber family - the 6106B with 17 or 25 jewels and the 6106C, with 17, 23 or 25 jewels depending on the watch model. The "jewels" in a watch are actually industrial grade gemstones with no value, such as synthetic ruby and its primary function is to provide a permanent lubrication of moving parts. Without these jewels, the metal bearings of the essential moving parts would wear out prematurely. Jewels can also increase the accuracy by reducing friction in the escapement.

In some cases, these jewels are also used to increase the "jewel count" for marketing reasons. In the olden days, watchmakers put in extra and unnecessary jewels to increase its perceived value. In this case, the additional jewels don't serve any purpose at all. In the 1960s, watch manufacturers were in a race to put more jewels which actually serve no real purpose. A notable example is the Waltham 100-jewel watch, which actually needed only 17 jewels for lubrication while the remaining 83 jewels were merely decorations on the oscillating wheel.

Since then watch manufacturers no longer use the jewel count excessively as a marketing tactic, although a lesser known example is Seiko's current 7s36 caliber (found in Seiko 5 Sports models) which has 2 jewels more than its "lesser" sibling - the 21 jeweled, 7s26. The extra two jewels in the 7s36 served no real purpose other than to make the 7s36 "an upgrade" over the 7s26.

Just search Google Images for the 6106-5410. You'll find some pics, which will lead to their respective websites.

cheers,
Quartzimodo

Many thanks for the extensive info, Q. Interesting stuff - I feel myself becoming a watch nerd. And I like it. :)

I have a seiko automatic 17 jewels brown and gold in color watch. I have been told that the serial number is on the back side of this watch and it is 700277. My grandfather gave it to me about 10 yrs ago and he has had it for a WHILE! on the backside underneath of the supposive serial number it says Japan A. Do you have any idea what the date on this would be? or how i could find out? I read through both articles you wrote and am still a little fuzzy! Thank you for your help

Hi Burton,

That is a rather unusual looking watch you've sold. This is the first time I've laid eyes on a 2P20-5359 (this appears to be an U.S. export model) and I don't even know how to begin to describe the watch. It was most likely to match the fashion trend of the 80s'.
Perfect for those reliving the glory days of Knight Rider, The A-Team, Duran Duran, New Romantic music, Dynasty, big hairdos, shoulder pads, et al. :-) This watch represents a horological icon of the 80s, it's certainly collectible but would appeal to very few people. I think it should be worth at least USD30. May 1986 is about right for this watch though.

Quartzimodo.

Hi Mark,

Seiko made quite a few automatic calibers with 17 jewels before the year 1996. You need to furnish the caliber and caseback numbers which is in the form of XXXX-YYYY. Flip your watch over, it should be on the caseback. If it's too small to read, use a digital camera set on macro mode and take a snapshot of the caseback. If you don't have a digicam, use a powerful magnifying glass. The serial number alone cannot identify when your grandfather's watch was originally made.

Quartzimodo.

Thanks for the Seiko Dating information! I have (High School Graduation watch) a two-tone day-date -- dated to be made Jan 1971! (I got in late May of that year)
My father has a unique blue dial Seiko that he got some time after buying the one for me -- and I now know it was made in July of 1972!
Anyway . . . Thanks!

Hi,

My Dad passed away 7 years ago and I was left a seiko watch which IO will always treasure, and hope to pass it on to my children. The watch is a Seiko Quartz Chronograph 7T32-7F69 and needs so i have been told, a new movement. Up until a year ago the watch worked ok and it was sent off twice to seiko through Timsons. I was eventually told that the watch needs a new movement, but they said they do not make them anymore. Because the watch is of sentimental value and means everything to me. I would even buy a new watch to donor the movement if this is possible. Could you wonderful people advise me on where I could purchase either a donor watch or movement if that is possible? Many thanks, Stuart

Dear Quartzimodo:
I inherited a Seiko Quartz from my father-in-law...
a retired US ARMY Corpsman who served in Korea and two tours to VietNam... background for my question about his watch... movement 7123-8429-P...ser no. 154826 with a face code of 7123-857LR... It is very interesting in that the Day of the Week window displays in French or English...
Leads me to believe it was produced for the VietNamese Market...Am I correct in placing this date at May 1961?

Hi CB,

My sincerest apologies for the belated reply as I had some trouble with my WordPress blog installation comment reply; just had it fixed yesterday. The 7123 was one of Seiko's early analog quartz movements from the 1970s to the early 80s. I had to look at examples of other 7123 based Seiko quartz watches to get an idea when your watch was made. You can rule out 1961 because the quartz movement wasn't even invented yet that early.

I would put the production date of your watch at May 1981 from the styling of your watch (found a photo of the 7123-8420, which is similar to yours). The 7123 was also one of the few calibers that found its way into the short-lived Seiko 5 Quartz models. Yours is a model meant for the U.S. export, which perhaps found its way to the Army PX in Vietnam. Though I haven't heard of Vietnam market-specific Seiko watches, it's highly plausible that a number of 7123-8429s were sold in Vietnam (hence the dual language English/French calendar).

hope this helps and sorry for the late reply,
Quartzimodo

Hello, I would like to know when my seiko 5 was made. The serial number is 317885 and model 7009-876A F. According to your article this seiko was made in january but I not sure if was made in 1973? 1983? or 1993?

Thank you for your help!!!

Hi Jonathan,

I believe your particular model was made on Jan 1993 by the Seiko overseas production facility in Hong Kong. The 7009 movement in your Seiko 5 however, was assembled by the Daini factory in Japan.

cheers,
Quartzimodo

Hi Quartzimodo,

I have a ladies stainless steel octangular watch with a leather strap with the following on the back:1N00-5099 RO and the serial # 145149. I know it was purchased in either the 1970's or 1980's. Can you tell me anything else about the watch.

Hello, i bought a very old Seiko watch from a war veteran at a garage sale. I had the watch re-conditioned and it's a wind up seiko watch. I've looked all over the internet and even contacted seiko of japan about this watch. They said the glass face was different but it looked like a ww11 pilot watch?

The numbers on it: patent#274740 and at the bottom the numbers: 9139

Can you help me know what this watch is?
Thanks

Hello Jonathan

I have a Sekio dress gold coloured watch. On the back 5E20-9A00 then - 'RO' in a closed little box.

Japan D

045326
Seiko Base Metal
It has a white face with Seiko Quartz and Roman Type numerals

Can you tell me what year.
I tried your system and came up with 2000?

Yours aye
Phil Edinburgh

Hi Kevin,

Without seeing your watch in question, it's impossible for me to guess what you actually have. What I do know that old Seiko watches from the 1950s were labeled "Seikosha" instead of Seiko. Please contact me via the "Ask Quartzimodo" contact form, thanks.

Quartzimodo

Hi Meredith,

The 1N00 quartz was one of Seiko's earlier generation movements for women's watches. It had a sister movement - the 1N01 caliber which had three hands (with a perpetual ticking second hand) while the 1N00 only shows the hour and minute. Neither has a date display. Your watch takes a Seiko or Maxell SR516SW battery, which will power it for 3 years straight. Your watch was made on April 1981.

Other than that, there's nothing special about 1N00-series; they were one of Seiko's many generic ladies' quartz dress watches from the late 70s.

Quartzimodo

Hello! Thanks for the article and responses!

I found a Seiko watch in an antique sowing machine. It is a 5Y39-7010 RO with a serial number of 9D8571. Do you know what year this watch would be and an approximate price?
Thank you!
Caleb

I am searching for a replacement battery hold-down clip, for my wife's Ladies Seiko LCD watch.
The model # is L012-5029, with Serial #853083. From all your info I believe the watch manufactured in May 1978. I believe I puchased the watch as a birthday present, at Beale AFB, CA, in the USAF Base Exchange some time in late 1978.
Thanks for any helpful suggestions or recommendations.
M.D. Christoph
St. Peters, MO - USA

Thank you so much!!

Thank you so much!!!
I like my watch!!! jeje!!

What can you tell me about a ladies 14kt gold seiko watch with these numbers on the back. 14-6259-A and 908041? Inside it says six jewels unadjusted and seiko time corp and japan A or R. Date or value? It looks like a sapphire on the knob of the stem. It says seiko quartz on the face. Any info at all?

Hello Quartzimodo Admin (sorry got name wrong before)

I have a Sekio dress gold coloured watch. On the back 5E20-9A00 then – ‘RO’ in a closed little box.

Japan D

045326
Seiko Base Metal
It has a white face with Seiko Quartz and Roman Type numerals

Can you tell me what year.
I tried your system and came up with 2000?

Yours aye
Phil Edinburgh

I have inherited a watch from my grandmother. On the back is serial number 302909 then next line SGP BACK ST. STEEL then next line 21-7520 then next line JAPAN-R. On front it indicates 17 jewel. How old is this watch and is it automatic.

I have a ladies Seiko 1520B serial#86056 It has a beveled baguette rectangular crystal.Was this watch made in 1978 ? What can you tell me about this watch ?

If Anna still has the 9550 for sale could you please pass my email to her? I had one given to me as a 21st birthday present and I loved it. Unfortunately we were burgled about 12 years ago and I have not been able to fine a replacement.
Thanks

Hi Patti,

The 1520-series Seiko watches were hand-winding mechanical (not automatic) watches designed for women. I am not familiar with the history of 1520 caliber, but looking at some examples online, they are most certainly from the early 1970s. Some 1520 models were marketed under the range "Fine Seiko" for ladies. Hand-winding Seiko watches mostly disappeared by the late 1970s (in favor of quartz technology) and it's possible that your particular watch was a late model, 1520. Therefore it's plausible that yours was manufactured on June 1978 by Seiko's Daini factory.

Most mechanical Seiko watches for ladies from this era are not water resistant, therefore take care not to get your watch wet. You'll need to take this watch off before rinsing your hands and wrists.

hope this helps,
Quartzimodo

Hi Sue,

You may have quite an old watch. The Caliber 21 family first debuted in 1961 and probably lasted till the early 1970s, possibly replaced by its successor - the Cal 22 in 1970. Your grandmother's watch is not an automatic but a hand-winding type (the large crown gives the clue that it's not an automatic, plus the fact it won't rattle when you shake it next your ear) and therefore it requires to be manually wound daily.

As I have never seen a Cal 21-7520 ladies' watch (are you sure your reading is correct?), your watch could have been made as early as Oct 1963 or as late as Oct 1973. I need to see pictures of your watch to be very sure.

best regards,
Quartzimodo

Hi Polly,

I had to do some looking up on the Seiko 14-6259 before replying to you. This watch is rather rare by Seiko's standards and may be highly collectible. I said "may" because it depends on the buyer's market and how much they're willing to pay for a used one - that is, if they're interested in the first place.

The "sapphire" on the knob is called a "cabochon crown", which is usually an artificial gemstone used for decorative purposes. The design of this watch looks very 1980s and I think your Seiko was made on Oct 1989. It's very likely that your watch was marketed exclusively to the U.S. and Canada. As for the value, it can range between USD750 to USD1k - again, this depends on its condition and how much people are wiling to pay for this watch.

hope this helps,
Quartzimodo

My dad bought a Seiko serial # 260247 caliber 7T32-7H80 Seiko Premier Chronograph 100M... it had a metal watchband that broke.. he wants to replace it with a leather band or the old one.where do u get bands for this model watch.. retailers don't sell them.. any suggestions???

Hello,
I have a rectangular shaped golden SEIKO ladies watch I think from the 70s model japan 1100-5840R and the serial number is 110148 and it's in a good shape a bit used still working perfectly so can you tell me the exact year and maybe it's value or an aprox number thank you!!!!

Hi Ralph,

I think you have a hand-winding (not automatic) Caliber 11 ladies' mechanical watch. If I'm right it's from January 1971. I'm unable to put a price on your watch but generally vintage Seiko watches for women go for less than USD200 on eBay.

Quartzimodo

Hi Linda,

Retail stores generally do not stock watch bracelets as they're very slow moving stock and pose a business risk. They will however, order one for you only upon request. Quote the part number 30B6-1B for the metal watch bracelet plus the caliber code 7T32-7H80 to be doubly sure. The first thing you should do is to email custserv@seikousa.com (Seiko USA's service center in New Jersey) and ask them if they can get it for you.

Quartzimodo

my mother owns a watch with 3d0431 also has 4n00-1030 can you give me any information at all please?

emma

Hi Emma,

There's not much information I can give you other than it's one of Seiko's countless generic quartz dress watches for women and that it uses the Seiko/Maxell SR516SW battery, rated to 3 years between battery changes. I'm not familiar with the history of the 4N00 movement but from some pics I found on the 'net, your mum's watch may be from Dec 1993.

Quartzimodo

I recently acquired a Seiko womens watch that was bought at a yard sale very cheap..$2.00, its numbers on the back are 4206-0401 ans A! in a box...the wtch is automatic and keeps perfect time...how old is this watch, what year was it made?Thank you, Josie

I have my mothers watch that her boyfriend bought her back in high school. Can't find anything on it. Says Seiko Japan, 11-7660 and 050098? Any help?

I have my mothers watch and her boyfriend bought this for her 27 years ago when they were in high school and I cannot find anything about it on the net for her. Its a wind up watch with a pinkish colored background inside the glass. Says 050098 and 11-7660? any help?

Hi TJ,

I wouldn't know how your mum's Seiko looks like as there were probably various models made in its time. But I can tell you one thing though: You're right that her watch is a manual winding one. The Cal 11A movement appeared in 1970 and lasted till nearly the end of the decade, probably between 1977 and 1978. Thus from the serial number you supplied me, your mum's Seiko was made on May 1970. My own mother still has her Cal 11A ladies' watch and it's from 1971.

Quartzimodo

Hello,
I own a Seiko 5Actus (7019-5010; made Feb/1976). I'd like to purchase a watch winder. Can you recommend any? I've tried finding more information as to what type of self-winding mechanism my Seiko has without luck. Reading about winders, I've discovered choosing the wrong type can do more harm than good. Thanks in advance!
Roland

Hi Roland,

If you ask me, it's a waste of your money to buy a watch winder for Seiko watches - whether vintage or contemporary. The 7019 is a simple complication movement and you don't really need a watch winder. I have dozens of Seiko automatics in my drawer - including ones dating as far back as 1969 and none of them require to be perpetually wound. When you're not wearing your Seiko 5 Actus, it's better to leave it in a state of unwind as you'll be reducing the wear and tear in the movement.

That said, watch winders are best used for certain Swiss mechanical watches with very complicated movements, e.g. a mechanical perpetual calendar. It's a hassle to set their calendars when the watch runs down therefore owners need to keep them running at all times, so they would invest in a watch winder. Seiko movements from the old days are very robust and long lived - they do not need to be kept running constantly. However, if you feel that you must keep your Actus running, look into Sharper Image watch winders.

hope this helps,
Quartzimodo

i was wondering if you could help me determine when my watch was made and if there is any value to it as well the numbers on back are 948594 7813-6029this would be helpful thank you

Hello Quartzimodo,

I tried to check the Jayhawk’s Production Date Calculator, but it seems that this website is no longer accessible (or is it only for me?).
I wanted to obtain some information about a watch my dad gave me. The info on the watch is:
Serial # :390325
Movement # :6309-6180
It has a "water resistant" label under the SEIKO label on the back, and a "5" and an "automatic" written on the front.

I would really appreciate if you could help me find some more information about this watch.

Cheers,

Julius

Hi Joe,

I'm not that familiar with the 7813 quartz caliber; it's a simple movement for gent's watches. I don't have any photos of your particular model, but the styling of a few 7813s suggest that they were from the 80s. It's possible that your watch was assembled on April 1989.
The value of 7813 watches can vary between a paltry USD45 to USD150, depending on its styling and condition. I've seen a seller asking for USD150 for his like-new 7813-6009 and one eBay seller wanting less than twenty bucks for a 7813-8009 (watch head only).

best regards,
Quartzimodo

Hi Julius,

Jayhawk's Production Calculator is offline as its author John G., has graduated and received his PhD at the university he was formerly pursuing his studies. His program scripts and his huge watch photo database were hosted by the university's servers. Since he had graduated, he may have left the university and the server admins had thus removed his content.
I don't have photos of your particular 6309 (Seiko made lots of models based on this caliber) but if you can see the fine print "JAPAN" on the dial and "JAPAN" stamped on the caseback, your watch would be an early model 6309. That would be from Sept 1983.

cheers,
Quartzimodo

Hello Quartzimodo,

Thanks for the update about Jayhawk’s Production Calculator.
I could not find the fine print "JAPAN" anywhere; does this mean that it could be from a year different from 1983 (like 1993)?
What is the production time period of the 6309?

Cheers,

Julius

Hi Julius,

I don't know the exact years of the 6309 because when it comes to this particular movement, I only follow the popular first and second generation Seiko divers based on the 6309 caliber, i.e., the 6309-704x and the 6309-729x models. I've seen examples of 6309-7040 divers dating to 1979 (I happen to own one) and I've seen pictures of 6309-7290 divers dated at 1993 or 1994. My best guess is that the 6309's era could have been from 1977 to 1993. Entry level movements which continued included the 7002 and 7009 calibers.
The absence of "JAPAN" on your dial means that your watch was assembled by Seiko's Hong Kong plant instead of Japan. Seiko shifted production of their 6309 watches outside Japan from the middle 1980s onwards to save assembly costs. In that case you have a watch from the year 1993 and not 1983.

cheers,
Quartzimodo

Hi,

I have Seiko Divers SKX009K2 Pepsi about half year. Please tell me the production date of my watch. Caliber 7S26-0020 A0 SCUBA DIVER'S, Serial No: 087665. The seller said if It was the last old stock for Pepsi. Do you know where this watch was produced? Is it from Malaysia or others country except Japan... one more, Is SKX009 & SKX007 still produced until now and when these two models first produced?

Thank You...

Mikael
Jakarta - Indonesia.

Hi Mikael,

Both the SKX007K and SKX009K divers appeared in 1996 when the 7s26A automatic movement was introduced. The Pepsi bezeled, SKX009K is also called the SKX175 in North America, to distinguish it from parallel imports from Southeast Asia. Both the SKX009K and SKX175 are identical except for certain markings on the dial and caseback.
I am not aware whether the SKX009K has been discontinued as I've read online discussions on the 009K purportedly to be taken off the market as far back as 2007. Discontinuation of models is largely a marketing decision by the Seiko company. If a certain model is not selling as well as it had been before, Seiko is likely to reduce production of that model or totally cease making it.

All SKX009K watches are assembled in Hong Kong (China). The earlier 7s26A movement was made by the Seiko plant in Singapore while the current 7s26B, in Malaysia. Completed movements are then shipped to China for the final encasement/assembly. Because the 7s26 caliber has been around for 15 years, the only way to know the year of production of your watch is to remove the caseback. Look at the oscillating wheel for the text "7S26". If it says "7S26A" then your watch is from Aug 2000; if it says 7S26B then it's from Aug 2010.

best regards,
Quartzimodo

I have a seiko automatic 17 jewels mens watch. it reads on caseback seiko water resistant 820 841 stainless steel 7009-5019. Is my watch fake ? If not when is it dated , and what's the value of this watch

Hi lala,

Without seeing actual photos of your watch, I cannot tell if you have a genuine Seiko. But if it looks 100% exactly like these photos then you have an authentic watch.

The styling of the 7009-5019 is very seventies but I don't know when Seiko introduced this particular model or how long it was in the market. If your dial has "JAPAN" below the 6 o'clock marker and on the caseback, I would put its production date at Feb 1978.. If there's no mention of "JAPAN" on the dial or the caseback, then your watch is from Feb 1988. Seiko made early 7009s in Japan and later batches in Hong Kong (where there is no mention of the "JAPAN" text.

As for the value, have a look at eBay to get a rough idea the going second hand prices for 7009s.

cheers,
Quartzimodo

I have a Seiko watch that belonged to my mother. Round face with no numbers. Back is stainless. Numbers on back are 1E 20-0339.Also number 500638 in larger print. Number on the band is B5317 I think. Would like to know it's age and value.

[...] or I’d attribute it. Check the link or watch forums for details. If that file goes away, try this article and part 2 on Quartzimodo’s Time Journal, which explain how to manually date Seiko [...]

I Have a supposed Seiko 5 with serial 7009-2020 [AI] any ideas anyone ?
-tv shaped
-stainless steel back
-water resistant
-white dial
-no mention of made i.e japan
- says automatic

Looks like this. thanks !
fake ?

thanks !

Hi confused,

Your watch is a genuine Seiko 7009-2020. The absence of the text "JAPAN" on your dial simply means that it was assembled by Seiko's Hong Kong factory, perhaps in the early 1990s. Early 7009 Seiko watches were Japan-assembled. Your movement was sourced from Seiko's Daini plant in Japan.

Rest assured, if your watch looks exactly like the one in the example (in your link), it's NOT a fake. :-)

cheers,
Quartzimodo

Congratulations on your public-spirited information campaign.

My short-list includes the Seiko SRP021K1 and Seiko SNK375K. www.ewatches.com offers both at attractive prices.

Before ordering one or both online, how can I determine whether they're genuine, and not (Chinese) knock-offs? And would you recommend ewatches, or any particular online store?

(May I assume that pre-determining the date of manufacture of online purchases isn't possible?)

Many thanks, and all power to your elbow!!

Can you tell me what year this watch was made and the cost of the watch.630153 and the top number is TE20-5630 and this number is on the band B5362 I got this watch as a gift.Thank you

Sorry this is the right number The seiko watch i was asking about i think the top mumber is 1E20-5630and the bottom number is 630153 and band number is b53621 i think. The face is brown and is very small. And could you tell me what year it was made . what would a watch like this cost.Thank you

Hi
I had a day date gold Seiko given to me for a 25 year celebration in 1998.
It was stolen during a break-in. Any chance you'd have a photo or link so I can show my insurer which watch we are looking for?

hi, I was wondering if you could help me, I have a seiko watch model 5Y22-8B01, serial no 089552, could you tell me when the watch was made and any idea of the value.
thanks
Joao-Portugal

Hi Bill,

I'm truly sorry to hear about the break in and your loss of your gold Seiko watch (are you certain it's solid gold and not gold plated?). Unfortunately Seiko made more gold and gold-plated models than anyone could track of. Even if you asked Seiko Japan's customer service to help you, they would need the caliber and caseback codes to narrow down to the possibility of models matching your stolen watch. At best they might email you their old catalogs (if they still keep them) of their long discontinued models and I would imagine it would be a very long list.

However, Seiko makes fewer solid gold models than gold plated ones - and if yours was especially part of one of Seiko's Historical Collection series (they made quite a few limited editions), it would help to narrow down to your exact model.

Quartzimodo

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Congratulations on your great site. I bought a Seiko 5 DX 27 Jewels in Japan in 1970: Stainless Steel 5139-7010 Water Proof S/N 840723. When I had it cleaned and regulated 5 years ago they said that no further adjustment would be possible but I can't remember exactly why. It is now losing about one minute per day again. Do you think renovation would be worthwhile?

Hi, my father has a Seiko calculator watch C153-5007 serial number 853357. Could you tell me when the watch was made and approximately how much it's worth please? He hasn't got the original box or stylus but it is in excellent condition.

Many regards, Dan.

Hi, great post about Seiko manufacturing date.
I have a Seiko divers watch 4205-15B can you tell me how to spot a fake one? I really don't know if this is fake or original. Some says shaking it will prove it, if this is true how can I determine it?

I really need more information about this watch, more power!

Thanks for running such as useful site. I have a Seiko automatic stainless steel watch and I want to be sure I can go swimming, not diving, with it on. On the back it says Water Resistant KY. I cannot find this on the Seiko website. Please help!

Hello, Could anyone tell me how old this watch is please.

case 6207-7980
Serial 5800079

Many thanks in advance.

Hi Quartzimodo!

First of all, I would like to thank you for helping so many people with this website.

My father passed away and I ended up with his watch. The leather strap is torn and the battery is dead. I want to restore it as a keepsake, but I can't find much information about it. I think it may be a fake, but I thought you might be able to help verify.

Here is the information I have:

Movement # (on face): 6020-4170-A
Movement # (on back): 6020-8099-A
Serial # : 110247
Other info : 14k etched on back. Gold dress watch with lizard strap. SQ on clasp. SEIKO Quartz on face. Looks almost identical to pictures in the link below. Website claims it is a GQ280.

www.liveauctioneers.com/item/3255344

Thanks again!

Geoff

Hello,

I just (got it in the mail from singapore today) bought a Seiko watch and I tried to find out when it was made, I know this:

Model:SKX781K (Monster, orange)
Movement: 7S26-0350
Serial: 140418

So I was wondering if there is any way of knowing if it was made in 2001 or 2011?

Hi Per,

It is most likely that your watch was made on April 2011 and not 2001. The Seiko Monsters are very easy to sell and it is highly improbable that you've gotten one that's 10 years old, unless you bought a used watch.

That said, a 2011 production SKX781K orange Monster should have the following characteristics:

- English/Roman day-of-week calendar (not English/Spanish)
- A 7s26B movement and not 7s26A. This can only be confirmed if you remove the watch's caseback and look and the markings on the oscillating weight.
- A fully polished caseback. Earlier Monsters had a matte/satin raised Tsunami logo with polished surroundings.
- The letters "KG" on the caseback, which would not be present in an early Monster. I have no idea what "KG" means.

cheers,
Quartzimodo

Hi Geoff,

I'm so sorry to hear about your dad's passing. All the same, you are lucky to inherit his Seiko watch and hope you'll take good care of it in his memory.
I'm not familiar with Seiko 6020 quartz watches although it was one of Seiko's calibers from the late 1970s. It appears that Seiko made quite a few 18-karat solid gold models using the 6020 movement, while the remainder from stainless steel.

Seiko used various model numbering systems in the old days, unlike from the 1990s onwards. For the 6020 caliber, Seiko used several codes like "GQ", "GKGT" and "SAGT". As there are very few examples of 6020 watches on the Internet, the exact production lifespan of this movement is unknown. 6020 watches were made by Seiko's Suwa factory (the other being their Daini plant) in Japan. Your dad's watch must have been a rare model made for the U.S. market and "GQ280" is an official model code.

Rest assured, you have a genuine vintage Seiko watch. Its value today is dictated by the current price of gold, rather than its collectible status. Production month/year for your dad's watch would be January 1981.

hope this helps,
Quartzimodo

Hi John Barton,

I don't have any record of a Seiko caliber named "6207" but I think you meant the "6201". Sometimes the "1" can be mistaken for a "7", especially when the caseback engraving has worn off from age.
If your watch is indeed the 6201, then it would be 46 years old. It was made on August 1965 and may have the "waterproof" marking on the back.

cheers,
Quartzimodo

Hi Jerry,

I would not advise you to swim with the watch, unless it is specifically rated to at least 50 meters. Seiko watches without any depth indication are rated to 30 meters. For a better explanation, I have an old post about water resistance in watches.

cheers,
Quartzimodo

Hi Cangco,

Good question. So far I have not seen any examples of fake 4205-series ladies' diver's watches. It's an automatic watch with hand-winding capability. Shaking it will just cause the movement to make the usual mechanical noises associated with the spinning oscillating weight - you cannot distinguish between an original or a fake watch by merely shaking one.

cheers,
Quartzimodo

Hi daningley,

Calculator watches were a fad in the seventies. The C153-series Seiko digital watches were introduced in 1977 and therefore your dad's watch has to be from May 1978. As for its value, please have a look at eBay to get a rough idea. There's one listing that's selling a never-used, immaculate condition C153 calculator watch for slightly over USD1,000, but this is an exception than the norm. Most people wouldn't pay that much even for a new-in-box (NIB) piece.

cheers,
Quartzimodo

Quartzimodo,

My seiko runs wt 7s26 calibre. The serial no is 716094. From your explanation I know it was manufactured in January 1997. Thanks for that. Water resistant, japan, stainless steel, seiko, is etched at d back. Is it an original Japan version? It used to run very late. I just adjusted it n for some days now, it's working fine.

Thanks
Kola

Hello and thank you for the info.I have a Seiko 5, automatic. I would like to know as much as possible about it and your help would mean a great deal to me. I would especially like to knwo where it was made. I assume it was made in September 1981. So here are the numbers I have. On the caseback: serial number 195864 (with an R under it and a small "flah"/"lightning" under the R). Caliber no is stainless steel 7009-5860 followed by a square with an A1 in it. On the casefront I have: Seiko 5 and at the bottom 7009 "lightning" sign and then 25IR R.
The day of the week is in Enhlish and Spanish.
Please tell me what these numbers say. Thank you!
Victoria

Hi
I have an old wind-up gold seiko watch with the serial number 9D00664. Could you please date this watch for me? Also do you have any idea of its value.

Thank-you for your help!:)

Donna

Hello,

I just bought a Seiko watch and I tried to find out when and where it was made, I know this:

Model:5 (silver)
Movement: 7S26B-02wo
Serial: 007799

So I was wondering if there is any way of knowing if it was made in 2000 or 2010, made in JAPAN or?
Thanks

Hi Donna,

Sorry for the late reply as I was overseas when you posted your question. You didn't mention the caliber but since you did say it's a manual wind-up Seiko watch with a 7-digit serial number (I assume you made no mistake), it would probably be from December 1969. I am unable to assess its present value without the caliber and caseback numbers and whether the words "SGP" or "18kt Gold" are printed on the reverse of the watch.

Quartzimodo

Hello Victoria,

I apologize for the late response as I was traveling when you posted your question. What you have is a late model 7009 Seiko 5 automatic from September 1991 and not 1981. This is because the word "JAPAN" is not printed on this watch's dial, which meant it was assembled by Seiko's factory in Hong Kong, using the 7009 movement from Japan. Seiko 5 automatics from the early 1980s were 100% Japan assembled and would have "JAPAN" engraved on the caseback and printed on the dial.
The "A1" refers to the caseback tool for Seiko technicians to use for opening up the watch. "25IR R" would be the dial code specific to this gold plated model. And that lightning symbol means the watch parts were made by Seiko's Daini factory in Japan.

hope this helps,
Quartzimodo

@Caleb Payne - Hi, first i would like to say you have great site. could you tell me how old my watch is.on the face it has Seiko Quartz ,mov't Japan 5y39-7448 ck 2,on the back it has Seiko,base metal ,5y39-710 , R0 in a square ,ES ,014316,inside case back is Seiko time corp,Hong kong,ES.thanks Martin.

Hello,

my Seiko dive watch has just been stolen. It was bought in the Philippines in 2006 and the only thing I have remaining is the "worldwide guarantee and instructions" booklet with the "certificate of guarantee". The certificate says the watch serial no. is "2SA MS WSL 0030". Do you please know what today's value of the watch is and possibly what the watch would have cost me new back in 2006 when it was bought?

Thank you for any help you can provide

Melanie

Hi Melanie,

I'm sorry to read about your misfortune. The details which you provided makes no sense to me, but I'm guessing your watch was the mid-sized SKX013K automatic diver (7s26-0030). Depending on the vendor, the SKX013K would have been selling between USD130 to USD160 some years ago. As for today's going prices, just Google for SKX013K and check eBay.

hope this helps,
Quartzimodo.

Thanks for the great site! I have an Orange Monster. On the dial, at the bottom it says, 7S26- and 2084 R 2

On the back it is all highly polished and a ser. # starting with 8N, which I assume is Novemeber 2008, as that would be close to when purchased. On the back it also says, 7S26-0350 and AO in a square, which I understand is the movement, but would it be a 7S26 A or B? Not sure about the AO in the squre though. I understand you can't tell for sure without opening the caseback about the A or B movement, but when did they start the B? Also, was this watch movement made in Singapore or Malaysia. It also has the letters KG on the back. Did you ever find out what that is? Thanks for your help.

Hi Quartzimodo,

What a wonderful site! I've thoroughly enjoyed reading it from top to bottom. I have a watch that was found some years ago and then given to me, which I wore for years. Unfortunately, it has stopped working now, just after the battery was replaced.
I'll give you the details and then ask a couple of questions, if I may.
Quartz movement, date window, roman numerals on the face

On the reverse:
Base metsl, stainless back;
Japan J
6532-5250 / 584077

On the face:
Japan 6532-5360 T

From your info I know it was made in August of the 5th year, but I don't know the decade (most probably 70s or 80s). Can you tell me, please?
Why different numbers on the face than on the reverse? Has the face been put into a different case?
Any idea on value? I did do a Google image search but only saw one other from a very old Ebay listing that I couldn't access.
Is a watch of this age repairable? / Is it worth doing?

Thank you so much.
Judanne (Australia)

Well, I spoke too soon. I have found almost the same watch currently listed on Ebay. It has the same code of 6532-5250 and a very similar serial number; same month and year, except his is an earlier number. He still has the original box and is listed for $400AUD. Looks exactly the same except his does not have the roman numerals on the face.
The Ebay page is here:
www.ebay.com/itm/370361000154?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

We even have the same strap, but they are definitely not originals! :-)

Judanne

Absolutely the most thorough and THOUGHTFUL information I have EVER read. THANK YOU sir --- you are an example of professional excellency.

I have a gold face, gold case with stainless steel back Seiko Quartz watch. The face has the markings: MOVT JAPAN V701-6K58 CK 1. The back has V701-6K09 R0, SERIAL NUMBER IS 053464. Could you help me date and appraise this watch?
Thanks.

Hi Wade,

The V701 caliber was one of Seiko's movements that was fitted to its generic gents' dress watches. I'm not sure when exactly the V701 first appeared on the market, but some of the models look like they originated from the early or mid 1990s.
Yours is most likely to come from May 2000 and its model # is either the SFW048P or SWF038P. Generic Seiko quartz dress watches usually do not fetch a high value on the second hand market. Look at the Buy-It-Now offers on eBay and you'll see what I mean.

cheers,
Quartzimodo

Hi Tom,

Many thanks for the glowing compliments, much appreciated! I try to help folks whenever I can :-)

Quartzimodo

Hi Judanne,

Your old Seiko Quartz 6532-5250 appears to be from the 1980s, judging from its styling and the movement module's design. To be precise, it's from August 1985 and certainly not as early as 1975 - although Seiko had released a few early quartz models ten years earlier.

When Seiko collectors refer to vintage watches, we always use the caseback numbers as the identifier, NOT the ones on the dial. This is because the dial number refers to the exact dial color and styling for the model. That is why the caseback and dial codes generally do not tally with one another. Seiko may make a few variations based on the 6532-5250 design. To differentiate the dial part, a different number is issued to the different dials - that's why your particular model's dial was named as 6532-5360 instead of 6532-5250. However, if you're ordering a replacement dial from the Seiko service cent

The "T" after 6532-5360 is believed to stand for Tritium, a mildly radioactive paint that is used to coat the hands and hour markers. Seiko had also used Promethium-147 luminous paint besides Tritium paint in the past. The watch company has stopped using either materials ever since they developed their proprietary, non-radioactive and non-toxic LumiBrite luminous compound in the mid 1990s. LumiBrite also lasts longer and glows brighter than Tritium or Promethium-147 compounds.

Thanks very much for that. :-)

Hi Quartzimodo,
Recently I found a Seiko watch I received for my 21st birthday in Mar 1976.The markings on the back are as follows Seiko Water Resistant 4N 0162 Japan 6 Stainless Steel 7005 8190.I have not used this watch in years and initially it worked perfectly but has now stopped.Does it need a battery or a new movement and if so where could i get these parts.Many thanks in anticipation and regards for all your hard work.

Hi Pat,

You have an automatic watch dating to November 1974. If it doesn't work, have the movement checked by a competent watch repairman, overhauled if necessary and regulated for accuracy. Note that the 7005 is a mechanical watch and thus is NOT powered by a battery. Old mechanical movements are generally serviceable as their parts can easily be disassembled, cleaned and lubricated whereas quartz movements are usually replaced if they have major faults.

cheers,
Quartzimodo Admin

Hi Jimmy G,

Sorry for the late reply as I had missed your post. With regards to your SKX781K Orange Monster, it's definitely from 2008 based on your description of its all-polished caseback. All Seiko 7s-calibers from 2007 onwards are the 7s26B version and are factory assembled by Seiko's plant in Malaysia. I don't know what the additional letters "KG" mean as they were not present on the earlier Monsters with the matte Tsunami logo.

cheers,
Quartzimodo

Hi there Quartzimodo,

I read through your post, but I'm still having trouble deciphering the date of my Seiko. It's a water resistant Seiko 5 Automatic watch (silver in color) with the 6 digit numbers 780504 on it. Stainless Steel 7009-8761 is below those numbers. I can even post a picture if you need more information. Anything will help.

Thanks.

Hi Johnny X,

It's OK, I found some photos of the Seiko 5 7009-8761 similar to the one that you have. None of them had the word "JAPAN" (not to be confused with "Made In Japan", which was for the Middle East market) on the dial, which meant the 7009-8761 was made by Seiko's factory in Hong Kong.
Your watch was manufactured on August 1987. The 7009 is a robust movement and unlike the 7s26 caliber, its internal components had all metal parts. There must be millions of 7009 Seiko 5's that are still happily ticking to this day, if their owners took good care of their watches. :-)

hope this helps,
Quartzimodo

Hello,
I was wondering if you could help as I checked a lot of sites and didnt find any response. I bought seiko 5 automatic watch, 7S26-01V0, serial no 164699. Could you tell me if it's genuine, is it a new model?
Besides, as am completely new to automatic watches, how long such watch would work being unused given that it was fully wound before and since it's not hand winding model what shall I do to fully wind it.
Thank you in advance

Thank you so much Quartzimodo!

Hi Justi,

What you have is a perfectly genuine Seiko watch, if all the essential identification and markings add up. You have one of the Seiko 5 models with the prefix SNK3xxK or SNK5xxK.

Seiko makes about a dozen variants based on the 7s26-02v0 caseback type. The reason why you can't find any info on your watch online is because sellers do not refer to Seiko watches by their technical reference codes but the model codes.

For instance if yours has a white dial with a red racing stripe in an arc stretching from the 12 o'clock to the 4 o'clock marker, that would be the SNK369K. If you Google for this reference code, you'll find images relating to this exact watch.

On the other hand, if you search for "7s26-02v0" instead, this leads to ambiguity as the above caliber/caseback code could mean any model from this series.

To keep an automatic watch running perpetually, all you have to do is to wear it normally. Don't shake the watch vigorously too frequently as this would cause your watch to speed up and gain time.

Hope this helps,
Quartzimodo

Hi Quartzimodo,

Wondering if you could help me remember what the name everyone else calls this watch. It's a 7N43-9048. Serial number 651312.

Trying to remember when I could this, I was pretty sure I bought before my daughter was born (2003), which would mean it was made in 1996, but it was at least 2001 when I bought it, so had it been sitting around the store for five years, or is my memory faulty? I just recently had the battery replaced, so that makes me think it's a 2006. The closest watch I can find on Seiko USA's site is model SGF204, which has the same caliber number 7N43, but the face, hands and bracelet are slightly different (my is all stainless steel, no gold).

Thanks a lot,
Chad

Hi Chad,

I found some images of the 7N43-9048 and saw that it's a quartz dressy-sports watch with a full luminous dial. There are no nicknames for this particular model although some sellers called it a "Flieger" (or "flyer" in German) but in my opinion, it hardly resembles one. The Arabic numerals on the dial makes this watch look like one of those "Railroad Approved" Seiko models that the company used to make (they're long discontinued).

Your watch is indeed one of the several variations from the 7N43-9048 series (there are black, silver and green dials) and your model could be an SGF3xxP or SGF4xxP model. The problem is that the 7N43 caliber had been around since the 1990s and it's hard to pinpoint the exact year of production unless I see how it looks like. Try to use Google Image search and type in "Seiko SGF" and see if you find any watches that resemble yours. If your watch has "Seiko Quartz" printed on the dial, it's likely to be from 1996. By the late 1990s onwards, Seiko stopped using the word "Quartz" for their quartz watches.

On the other hand, if yours looks more like the SGF204 model, it looks like the Rolex Perpetual Datejust with its Rolex-esque bezel and its Jubilee bracelet.

hope this helps,
Quartzimodo

This is a Seiko Mantel Clock I purchased a few yrs back,put it in my closet and just ran acrossed it again..I'm wondering the value of it,

I have very small seiko ladys watch the front of the watch has a gold face.On the back these are the numbers 1E20-5630 and a small box with a RO in it. Then under that the numbers are 630153.It was a gift from my mom i love this watch.Could you tell me when it was made .Thank you....shirley

Thanks Quartzimodo, looks like it's an SGF523 (according to the filename): www.robertasjewelers.com/images/products/SGF523.jpg

This is my watch, just tick marks on the face, a double tick at 12, same bracelet.

I love this watch :)

-chad

Hi Marlene,

I don't collect clocks although my wall clocks are from Seiko.
The trouble with mantel clocks, especially quartz ones from Seiko, Citizen and Orient is that they are hardly collectible. Unless you have a vintage, hand made, mechanical one from Switzerland or Germany , Seiko wall and mantelpiece clocks don't really have much value on them.
Mostly used quartz clocks are sold at flea market and garage sale prices. Generally people prefer to buy a brand new ones except if that clock bears some horological significance, e.g. made by a famous clocksmith.

Quartzimodo.

Hi Shirley,

I had to do some research on the 1E20 caliber to find out what it is. It's one of Seiko's early quartz movements specially designed for ladies' wristwatches and pendant watches, which was possibly first introduced in the late 1970s. The problem is that I don't know its exact production lifespan but it seems that all of them were Japan-made, with different styling varying with the trend. So this rules out the mid 1990s to present day, where quartz Seiko watches (except those for the Japan market, like the Seiko Lukia lineup) are manufactured in Singapore.

My best estimate would be March 1986. Women's Seiko quartz watches are much harder to pinpoint their exact production date compared to men's watches from the 80s.

hope this helps (somewhat),
Quartzimodo

Thank you so much Quartzimodo. I had not ever seen a watch so small but i love it...Shirley

Hi Quartzimodo,

thank you so much for your information, it helps a lot and i really appreciate it. You are a star!

just one quick question: how long my seiko 5 should work when left unused given that it was fully wound before?

Informations i got from internet vary, between 48 and 24 hours. My is working about 20 -24 h so i was wondering if it's OK or if it's faulty?

thanks again
Justi

Heloo Quartzimodo

i have a watch my uncle brought from japan,and was worn by my grandmother .what year i dont know exactly 70s or 80s or 90s.
its an Arctus 21 Jewels serial 825168 and 7019-7060.

and a nother one SEiko 5 automatic 840311 7S26-3040

Tnx

Hi Orion,

You have one of the rare, Seiko 5 Actus models which was first introduced in the very late 1960s, but your uncle's watch was a later model sold in the 1970s. Production date would be February 1978. As for your Seiko 5 7s26-3040 automatic, Seiko made many versions based on this caseback type. Is the caseback stainless steel or the see-through glass type? If it's the solid stainless steel kind, then it would be from April 1998.

cheers,
Quartzimodo

Hi Justi,

A Seiko 5 with a 7s26 movement should be able to run continuously off the wrist for up to 42 hours when it's fully wound. You really have to vigorously shake the watch for a good 5-8 minutes before wearing or so to get it to its fully wound state.
Barring main spring problems, it's possible that your watch's main spring was only half wound and because of that you noticed that it runs only for 20-24 hours as you said.

If your watch is fairly new from the factory, its movement needs between 4-6 weeks of constant wearing for it to settle down and run smoothly.

Enjoy your watch!
Quartzimodo

hi, thank you for your help. my ladies seiko gold {or plated ) watch was given to me by my deceased husband in the 80's. it is a quartz with the numbers on the back 040102 below those is 1320-533H and R in a block to the right . any thing you could tell me will be greatly appreciated. is it worth anything and about how much did it originally cost. Merry Christmas...... anita

Thank you for your kind and professional help that you give to so many.

I used to fray the cuff if my dress shirts because of watches that I would wear. A friend who owned a watch shop suggested a smaller and lighter watch. He sold me a used seiko titanium that I have worn for several years. I love this watch and became curious about it after reading your articles and the comments and responses listed here. MY titanium is 883342, 7N42-8090, KG with AO in a box. Titanium on front and on rear. I tried using the calculator on bishop web site but my watch is not listed. When was it made and do you know anything about it. Thank you for your response.

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Hi, amazed to see that you are getting queries, even after 2 years of writing that article!!! anyway, I think you can help me too. I have bought 7S26-02C0 - (thats the only number i can see at the back), it has a silver/stainless steel strap and the main body is of golden colour. it has a day and date display too. My question is that whehter the golden colour is actually something to do with real gold? could it be any other shiny metal colour and not gold at all? this is very important from religious point of view, hope you wont discard the seriousness of the matter. thanks

Hi Farhan,

Yes, it so happens that I don't mind providing a free community service for all Seiko watch owners and would-be owners everywhere. :-)

From your name, I assume that you're a Muslim. For those who aren't familiar with the Islamic religion, Islam forbids Muslim men from wearing pure gold ornaments and jewelry, including clothing from silk. Women are however, exempted.

You have a gold plated Seiko 5 watch and so far Seiko has never made a solid gold model for its Seiko 5 series. It's either stainless steel or gold plated. Therefore you should not have any issues wearing a gold plated watch from the Islamic religious perspective.

Gold plated Seiko watches are very popular in the Middle East, especially Saudi Arabia.

best regards,
Quartzimodo

thanks quarzimodo - much appreciated

Hello,
My name is Jaryn.
I'm wondering about this watch i want to know what model and year this watch was made. Here is the serial #r's are 5Y30-5370 and 9 N 0 7 0 9.
I hope that this would help. Also, it is a rectangular faced watch, with roman numerals, a stainless steel back, a light brown leather wrist strap, and what i think is a gold sides around it also a gold buckle.
Thanks
Hope you can find it .

Jaryn

9 = The decade 1900
N = Month November
0 = ???????????????????
7 = ???????????????????
0 = ???????????????????
9 = ???????????????????
This is all i know.
I'm also looking for the Original value too.
Thanks quarzimodo!!!

Hi, lots of information here, appreciate yourr time and research. !
Have a newly acquired swill kinetic sports 100 (gold)
On back are he's 593135. 5m42-0809. I think 5m42movements
Ceased production in 1991? Was my watch made in 1985 or
1995? Would I be wise to upgrade capacitor ...seems to be working
Ok ...thanks in advance..
James

Hello Quartzimodo,

I need your fantastic brain with SEIKO watches. I have an 7T32-6A5O [A4] S/N 891550. I became this watch in May 1986 and wear this watch now for over 25 years - everyday! This year I had to made the first revision of the clock, because one pushbutton dosen't work and the clock stands still.
In the meantime I bought another 7T32 (7T32-7A2A [A5] S/N 960309)
Now I have a confusion with the 6-digit serial number convention at my old clock. It seems like the clock was build in 1988, but really I have the invoice from 1986. Or was it build in 1978? What's your opinion?

best regards,
Marc

Hi Jaryn,The 5y30 quartz caliber was one of Seiko's movements made for dress watches in the 80s. The exact year when it was first introduced is unknown.Yours was likely from November 1989 as its design strongly suggests a late 1980s watch trend.

The last four digits signify watch #710 made for the same caseback type for that production month. (The first piece from the factory always starts with the numbers "0000" and not "0001").

As for its exact model number, I'll need the dial code that's printed on the face of the watch, below the 6 o'clock marker. The general reference code for your watch (and similar looking models) is with SDCxxxP, where "xxx" is a 3 digit number.

Sorry, I've no idea what your watch used to cost as I don't have the catalog for Seikos during that period.

Happy New Year!
Quartzimodo

Hi James,

Good question. I don't think the 5M42 was discontinued as early as 1991 because Seiko was still using the older calibers like the 5M23 then. Your Kinetic was definitely from September 1995, so how could the 5M43 have been pulled off the production line in '91?

You can continue using the watch as it is. Change the capacitor only when its power reserve level has deteriorated significantly, e.g. it stops running only 48 hours off the wrist.

Happy New Year!
Quartzimodo

Hello Marc,

The generally accepted year of introduction of the 7T32A caliber is 1988 but this is based on feedback from 7T32 owners who discuss their watches in watch forums. Are you certain that you bought yours two years earlier? If so, then this certainly rewrites history because no one has verified as having an early SDW0xxP model as early as 1986.

I'd be grateful if you could contact me via my Contact Form because I would like to see photos of your early 7T32s. :-)

Happy New Year!
Quartzimodo

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Dear Quartzimodo,

So happy to have found your site!
I have an my mother's 17 jewels SEIKO watch, and it has the following information on its back:
SEIKO
Water resistant - G
404064
Japan - A
Stainless steel 2206-0480

Would you have a possibility to indicate when it was made? I'm really enjoying wearing it, even though it tends to rush up to 30 minutes during the day :) .

Thank you very much in advanc efor your advice!

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Hi Monika,

The 2206A was considered as one of Seiko's better automatic movements for ladies' watches in the seventies. Apart from auxiliary hand winding, it is also a high beat movement - running at 28,800 beats per hour for better accuracy.

The normal beat rate for common automatic watches is 21,600bph. On the flip side, high beat watches also incur faster wear and tear, since their movements tick faster.

A 30 minute gain per day is highly unacceptable for a mechanical watch. You should have it serviced and the movement regulated for accuracy if you intend to wear it daily. Send it to a watch repairman who's well versed with mechanical timepieces.

Your watch was made on October 1974.

Hope this helps,
Quartzimodo

Hi Quartzimodo,

thank you very much for your comment and for your advice! It was great to finally find out so much more interesting details about my lovely Seiko. Now I'll just have it serviced, and it should continue working as a bee :)
You really are doing a great job.

Have a nice rest of the week!

Monika

I have a seiko I know nothing about can't u help the numbers I found are.. 2e20-7479 and 076435 made in Japan thank u

Hello

My brother has this Seiko watch (broken)

SGP BACK ST. STEEL

010080

7123 - 5000 M

I know they stopped producing this edition long ago, but I know he would be extremely happy if he got an identical one in good condition. How shall I proceed in searching for it?

Hi Irena,

Finding an identical, long discontinued Seiko watch that's not very popular would be like looking for a needle in.a haystack. Ebay is a good resource to start, but you have to persevere at searching for the exact model.

Sooner or later someone is bound to put a Seiko 7123-5000 up for sale.

good luck! :-)
Quartzimodo

Hi, another question for you..have a kinetic watch
And contemplating purchase of a seiko solar
Sne109.. does it use the same lium rechargeable
battery that the kinetic battery a kinetic watch
does? Would you consider the kinetic divers
watch a better buy ($100 more)?
Thanks in advance.
james

Hi Quartzimodo.

I was wondering if you could help me determine when my watch was made and if there is any value to it as well.

Seiko Bell - Matic Watch
17 Jewels - 4006-6080T.
Watch Strap All stainless Steel with B209 engraved on it.
Back Casing engraved with Seiko. Water resistant, 544543 Japan A. Stainless Steel 4006-6060.
Yours Sincerely
Carol

Hi James,

That's a great question. Actually Seiko has produced solar powered watches many years ago, but the company focused more on its Kinetic models. Perhaps seeing how successful Citizen is at marketing its Eco Drive watches, Seiko has recently revived its solar powered models, notably their Solar Powered divers, like the SNE series models.

I'm sure that the new Seiko solar powered models also use lithium ion rechargeable cells just like its Kinetics. A solar powered watch pretty much feels the same as a quartz watch on your wrist. That's because there are no moving parts in either movement types except for the watch hands and the calendar disc.

A Kinetic on the other hand, has an oscillating weight that spins, just like an automatic watch, although it doesn't spin freely like an automatic's rotor. Some folks like Kinetics for its technology and buy them because it's a Kinetic. Others buy a watch for its looks and it so happens that the watch has a Kinetic movement.

AFAIK, the only Seiko diver's model that was available in all three movements - automatic, quartz and Kinetic is the Seiko "Knight" model (all unfortunately discontinued). I happen to own both the SKXA49K Black Knight and the quartz SHC053P White Knight and both watches feel a bit differently on the wrist. The quartz version is slimmer, feels lighter and doesn't rattle when I shake my wrist, unlike my SKXA49K automatic Black Knight.

Seiko has just released the SSC017P solar powered, chronograph diver based on the recently introduced V175 caliber. This is Seiko's first ISO rated diver's watch with both a stopwatch plus a light powered movement. It's still new in the market and will take some time before you see this model for sale.

As for your final question, I can't say whether the Kinetic diver that you're looking at is "better" than the SNE109P, because there is no such thing as realistic benchmarks for watches, except for their price. TAG Heuer for example, carries a far higher sticker price than a comparable Seiko watch. It doesn't mean that TAGs are better than Seiko.

hope this helps,
Quartzimodo

Hi Carol,

Your Seiko Bell-Matic was manufactured on April 1975 by the Suwa factory in Japan. There are two variants of the Bell-Matic; the common 4006 day/date with either 17 or 21 jewels and the super rare, 4005 caliber with just the date display.

Depending on the condition, level of originality and the design, Bell-Matics can fetch between USD75 to USD300 on the used market. Seiko made lots of variations of the Bell-Matic; some are worth more, some less.

kind regards,
Quartzimodo

Hello Quartzimodo

Thank you for all your help regarding my Seiko Bell - Matic Watch. Its help me alot.

Yours Sincerely
Carol williams

Searching the web forbearance price on my
ska367 kinetic and found skywatches.com
In Singapore who has cheaper prices.
Would the watch I received from them be
Same as watch I ordered from US company?
Appreciate your advic.
James

Hi quartzimodo. My husband has a Seiko White metal watch, leather strap (broken) Serial #531394. Case#7T62-OEDO. My jeweller wants $250 for a stainless steel strap, but I have no idea what the watch is worth, and if it will pay me to replace the strap- or cheaper to buy a new one. We were given the watch, so have no idea if it is even a real Seiko. You are the only person I can ask, the shop will not say. Hope you can help. Carole

Hi,

Could you please tell me as to when my Seiko was made, the ref is sdw020j.
It's a gold plated chronograph, not sure of it's value? The watch itself is excellent condition.

Kind regards

Dave

Helloooo! I came across the old mechanic seiko of my mam. My mam claims that its a gift of her dad of 1974. Is that the production year? The serial number is 462725. Thank you!

Hello, me again, with the vintage lady seiko with 462725 number. Here is some aadditional info that might be useful. Below the number 462725 it mentions 11-9180 and JAPAN - v. Hope that helps you to help me, best, Anna!

Hi Quartzimodo.

Thanks for the insightful article. I very recently bought a Seiko from a Seiko dealer in the Netherlands and after browsing through the catalogue on the Seiko website I found your article and dated my watch to 2008 (not very recent I know, but at least I paid a little less than the advertised price :-) ). Now, I would like to know what model the watch is. There is nothing written/engraved on the watch that might give me an indication as to what model it is (eg. premier, etc.).

Is there any way of knowing the model if it's not specified on the watch?

Thanks
Thinus

Hi Anna,

Caliber 11A movements were made specially for women's watches. They are hand-winding mechanical watches (not automatic) and had a fairly short production run in the seventies.
Your mum's old Seiko was made on June 1974.

cheers,
Quartzimodo

Hi Carole,

I can't find any reference to "7T62-ODEO" because Seiko does not use the letter "O" but the number zero for the caseback type. If it's a 7T62-0DE0, then it would be one of the Sportura models - and Sportura watches mostly come in black dials, with very few versions with white dials. Are you sure you read the caseback codes correctly?

In any case AUD250 is rather steep for a replacement bracelet - not for a Sportura of this price range. Your jeweler is also marking up its price. As for whether this watch is genuine or otherwise, I'll need to see the watch in pictures. Use the contact form (Ask Quartzimodo!) to communicate with me, thanks.

cheers,
Quartzimodo

Hi James,

Yes, you should receive the same yellow dialed, "Big Freakin' Kinetic" (BFK) diver regardless whether you ordered it from Singapore or a US based seller. I don't think the SKA367P is native to the U.S. market; if you purchased this from an online retailer either from Amazon or eBay, it's likely to be a parallel import or grey market watch. Then again, I haven't been following what models Seiko USA is selling recently. If the SKA367 is now officially distributed by Seiko USA, it would come with a 3-year warranty but with a higher price tag.

Skywatches has been selling watches on the Internet long before I began my watch hobby in 2003 and it's a trustworthy vendor.

Happy buying!
Quartzimodo

Hi Dave,

I need the 6-digit serial number that you can find at the back of your watch. Without it, I won't know when your watch was made.

best regards,
Quartzimodo

Hi Thinus,

The absence of a sub-brand on the dial, e.g. "Premier", "Sportura", "Velatura", "Arctura" means that your watch is a generic Seiko watch, which does not belong to any Seiko lineup.
In this case, the only way to find out your watch is from its model tag (if it's supplied withe the watch), OR by the caliber/caseback codes found at the back of the watch.

Let me know your watch's movement and caseback codes. It's in the form of XXXX-YYYY.

best,
Quartzimodo

Wow what an education. I'm still having trouble figuring out the date on my watch though. Kind of a strange feature on the watch is that the day of the week can be set to a non english setting. The letters are not english too. I broke the band and have been surfing through Ebay trying to find a band that matches or will fit.

Seiko Quartz SQ Sports 150

5H23 8B60
7D0092

Thanks

Paul

Hi Paul,

It is quite common for Seiko to have a dual-language calender disc on its watches with a day/date display. International market versions would have English/Roman numerals, while region specific ones will have secondary languages such as Spanish, German, French, Hebrew, Arabic, Japanese and even Farsi (Iranian version of Arabic characters).

The 5H23 is a 3-jeweled simple quartz movement which was fitted to several sporty diver watch-like models from the late 1980s. Your 5H23-8B60 was most likely to have been made on December 1987. Finding the exact replacement band would be a tall order, as your model was discontinued decades ago. If it has regular lugs, you can retrofit the watch with a silicone, rubber or a leather band. Take it to a watch store that sells many types of aftermarket straps.

The reference number for your watch is as follows:

- SBG259J (stainless steel)
- SBG260J (gold plated)

good luck! :-)
Quartzimodo

Hi Quartzimodo.

I have a seiko 5
serial 765402
caliber KY 7S26-8760 F

how old is my watch,
what does the mark KY and letter F
whether the original
how much does it cost in your country

Thanks

Mea culpa!

On another of your blogs I asked what turned out to be a silly question. Now rereading this I did find the serial number 166502 on my new SNKE53K1. It was on the rim as you said - quite hard to find without your instructions.

Thanks again.

Dear Sir,
First, I admire your patience and your efforts you invest with this project of yours. Thank you. I have been reading almost every Seiko info you wrote. It's unbelievable the amount of knowledge you have. I think The Seiko corp. should declare you as an official Seiko doctor…
2nd, I bought a Seiko 5 last week:
On the invoice from the seller: Ref. SNK357K1 and some barcode with numbers.
On the dial (dark blue): SEIKO 5 Automatic 21 jewels and the digit 5 spread all over it as a hologram. On the bottom, very tiny written: 7S26- O4L4 R 2
On clear back:
St. Steel 7S26 – 01VO A4 (in a square) KY
SEIKO Water Resistant
No statement of where production took place… (One can see "Made in Japan" at the picture you placed, for instance).
On inside part of the mechanism, as can be spotted through clear back:
TWENTY-ONE JEWELS
SEIKO TIME CORP. 7S26B
Serial number as found on caseback rim is 121778.
I start to think it may not be original; In your great tutorial "How to tell when your Seiko watch was made", you explain that the 5 series have clear glass display backs from the year 2002 onwards, but according to the serial number method you describe, mine is a February 2001 production, so it's a bit confusing, not to mention the missing production place. Can you please tell if:
1. Mine is original?
2. Manufacturing plant?
3. If it is original – Why isn't the manufacturing origin written on this watch?
I thank you very much in advance and hope I am not bothering you.
Kind regards – Michael Steinmann.

Hi Milos,

You have a very popular Seiko 5 model (7s26-8760) that was made in so many variations. There were the early ones that were made in the 1990s and also ones that could be from the 21st century. If your watch has an all-metal caseback cover, it would be from June 1997. On the other hand, if your Seiko 5 has a see-thru display back, then it's from June 2007.

The letters "KY" are believed by some to signify the procedure to open the watch and proper case opener tool for Seiko technicians. This doesn't apply to watch repair stores that use universal caseback openers. The "F" is believed to be a code representing the case size.

Back in 1997, the average price of a Seiko 5 watch like yours would be approximately USD50 in Malaysia.

cheers,
Quartzimodo

Hi Michael,

The Seiko 5 SNK357K is not from 2001, because this model never existed back then. If it were from that year, it would also have a solid stainless steel caseback. Therefore your watch was from February 2011 and definitely not 2001.

Your Seiko 5 is authentic, not a fake. Like all Seiko 5 watches made since the late 1980s, yours is assembled in Hong Kong. The guilloche patterned dial with tiny Seiko 5 emblems on it is a relatively new design, which did not exist until recently.

Enjoy your new SNKH357K in good health. :-)

Quartzimodo

Dear Quartzimodo,

I have a Seiko Quartz, square faced (slightly rounded corners), man's dinner watch which I bought new many years ago.. There are only lines where numbers usually are... with a double line at the Twelve. Above the six is SQ. There is a day indicator on the right side (Three position).

On the back is .... Base Metal
St. Steel Back
7122-5039
1 0 0 4 8 4

I thought the bottom number meant it was produced on Oct. 4, 1984, but after reading some of your information, I'm not so sure. Could you tell me something about this watch, and what the numbers mean?

Thanks,
Lee

Dear Quartzimodo.
First, many 10x for your great help.
Second, I've bought the SRN001P1 today.
How can i know where is it made?
The number is 843123.
The caliber is 5M54-0aa0.

10x a lot!

Hi Quartzimodo,
Yesterday I bought an old Bell-Matic at a thrift store. I am trying to date it. The Model # on back is 4006-7019 and on the face is 4006-70207 AD. The serial number on the back is 7000031. Thanks for your help.

Dear Quartzimodo,
Just bought a used 9020-7010, SNo. 560117. As I learned from your detection rules, the watch was made in June, 1995 (or 1985?). The current product no. is 177, right? Is there a source that can tell how many pieces of that watch were produced? (It has 14 kt gold back. No steel!)
Regards, Detlev from Munich

Hi Roy,

Congratulations on your new Seiko SRN001P Kinetic watch. It's made in Singapore on April 2008. The 5M54 is a relatively new Seiko caliber.

cheers,
Quartzimodo

Hi Clemualb,

The serial number that you gave me is 7 digits long, instead of six. Can you confirm whether your Bell-Matic has "waterproof" or. "water resistant" markings on the caseback?

Quartzimodo

Hi,
It says Water Proof. A member of the Bell Matic blog dated it at Oct 1967. Here is my post there with pictures of the watch.

www.thewatchsite.com/index.php/topic,29050.new.html#new

Hi Clemualb,

The reason that I asked for the serial number verification is because a 7-digit serial number applies to vintage Seiko watches made between 1966 and 1967. Most Bell-Matics I've seen in pictures (I own two myself) are from the early 1970s. It's quite rare to see one that's made in the late 60s. So there you have it - October 1967. You have one of the earliest Bell-Matic models, which is a rare occurrence. The "Water Proof" marking also confirms that your watch has to be from 1967 and not 1977, because it if were from 1977 (about the time the Bell-Matics were discontinued) it would have "Water Resistant" marked instead.

John Nelson (John N) is a contact of mine and he used to run a site dedicated towards Seiko Bell-Matics; he would know about the subject more intimately. I bought a 4006-6040 from him two years ago as he was liquidating his collection.

cheers,
Quartzimodo

Hi, I have a Seiko lady's watch that is very confusing to me. The serial # is 880186. It also has the # 55105 on the face and inside it is 17J and 11A witch i am unable to find any information on it. I would appreciate any information you can give me. Thanks, Tammy

Hi Detlev,

I'm not familiar with the Seiko 9020 quartz movement but designs based on this caliber suggest that it's an 80s watch rather than the 1990s.

Therefore it's quite probable that yours was from June 1985. Although your serial number has the number 177, it is actually piece #178, because the first watch made in any month has the ending 4 digit numbers starting with "0000" and not "0001".

Unfortunately I have no idea how many pieces of your particular model were made. You'll have to contact Seiko Japan to get the information.

hope this helps,
Quartzimodo

Hi Tammy,

Not much is known about the hand winding Cal 11A as to when it first appeared and when it was discontinued. However, it's believed that this caliber was introduced in 1970.

My best guess is that your watch was made on August 1978, based on your serial numbers on the back of the watch. The numbers on the dial refer to the dial code and is not used for dating the watch.

Hope this helps,
Quartzimodo

Hi Quarzimodo

I recently received a SNK315K from the US, 1D1107, and I notice that the caliber is 7S26c, whereas my SNKE53K1dated June 2011 is a 7S26b. Does this mean Seiko has upgraded the 7S26 caliber recently?

Incidentally, do you think Seiko solar is superior to Citizen Eco-drive?

Hi Foxbat,

I haven't been poking my nose in watch stores for a long time, but word has it from the Seiko collector communities is that the 7s26C version did appear sometime in 2011. Some believe that the 7s26C has a more pronounced, elevated pinion in the movement for better height clearance for the main time hands. If this is true, then it should solve cases of sticking second hand that tend to rest exactly where the minute hand lies when the main spring is nearly unwound. So far I noticed that one of my watches (7s26B caliber) has this problem.

Thanks for reporting your watch production dates. Since you have observed your SNK315K is from December 2011 and your SNKE53K from June 2011, this narrows down 7s26C's debut between the months between June and December 2011. More feedback from owners having the newer 7s26C movement are needed to pinpoint the exact month Seiko introduced the 7s26C.

The new Seiko solar powered watches should be at least equal to Citizen's Eco Drives. Actually Seiko has had solar powered watches dating to the late 90s or early 2000s, but they weren't as popular as Citizen Eco Drive watches. For Seiko, they were busy pushing their Kinetic technology while Citizen had no choice but move forward with what they're already good at - light powered watches. Once upon a time, Citizen made a few models based on its Eco Drive Duo technology (solar and kinetic movement charged), but they were quite expensive. Those watches were probably more efficient at charging using sources of light than the wrist movement, therefore it made the "kinetic" charging method redundant.

I might buy one of those nice Seiko Solar chronographs this year. I saw quite a few models when I visited Singapore last October and was tempted to buy one, but I'll wait for newer solar powered chronographs to appear.

cheers,
Quartzimodo

Thanks again Quartzimodo

The reason I asked about Seiko solar was I saw a SNE031 advertised recently and considered buying it. I was waiting for the SNK315 to arrive and discovered that the two watches are virtually identical (37mm across and 10-11mm thick with very similar plain white/cream faces). In the end they were too similar, despite the different mechanisms, so I've changed tack (see your chronograph blog).

Incidentally, as I once said before, I have a "venerable" 5M62-0AK0, s/n 386455, which I bought in Canberra on 9 February 2005 (18 months old at the time). None of the documentation tells me what the model (S**etc) is. Is there some way I can find out?

Hi Foxbat,

I Googled for your Kinetic watch and found the reference number. It's either the SKA196P (white dial) or the SKA198P (black dial).

The SNE-series solar watches are one of Seiko's latest revivals into the solar powered watch scene and this time they're putting more effort into promoting them. I expect them to be vastly improved versions of their earlier efforts. Its solar panels are located behind the translucent dial like the surface of a white ping pong ball. Your Promaster AV0031-59A's solar panels on the other hand, are located at the subdial apertures. It's best that you view the SNE031 yourself before buying it, in case you prefer solid, opaque dials.

cheers,
Quartzimodo

Thanks again. You are a champion!

My SKA is the black 198P. There is considerable similarity to my recently bought SMY115 - which you gave the suffix P, which I assume means that both watches were assembled in Singapore. Does the suffix K indicate Hong Kong assembly?

I shan't be buying the SNE031. I was looking at it amongst a group of watches but in the end I plumped for a Citizen CA0021-53A, which had features that encapsulated the whole group.

Cheers.

Your education, and that of one or two others, has shown me the absolute need to shop around for watches, especially via mail order.

Hi Foxbat,

Yes, the "K" suffix designates a Seiko watch that is cased in Hong Kong (China). Do note that some models that are exclusive to the U.S. market do not have any letter suffix at all. Some examples include the SKXA35 and SNM035 automatic diver's models. They are not referred to as the "SKXA35K" or "SNM035K". U.S. market models also have the country of manufacture printed on the dial to comply with the American Federal Trade Commission labeling laws. For watches that are made in China, they are clearly marked "Mov't Singapore" or "Mov't Malaysia" and "Cased in China" in fine print on the dial.

The Citizen CA0021-53A is a great looking watch, but personally I avoid watches with no contrast between the dial and the hands/markers. They're hard to read the time in dim lighting. BTW, have you ever considered Orient automatic watches before? I have an Orient CEY04002B and it's a very fine dress/sports automatic, with a power reserve indicator and perpetual world time. For its asking price, Seiko offers nothing like it. A unique feature of the Orient CEY04002B is its sapphire glass display back, which is quite unusual as most watches with see-thru casebacks use the cheaper mineral glass.

This watch is equally eye-catching as the Citizen Promaster E210 series and I've often received compliments whenever I wear it. :-)

cheers,
Quartzimodo

Hi again

Three things:

I looked at the SNK315K I received allegedly from the US this week but the curiosity is it does have the suffix K and no origin printing on the face, even with a maginfying glass. Perhaps a US entrepreneur imports for export but not for the US market?

In that regard, I used the hotlink re the Orient CEY04002B and came up with an LA supplier who clearly indicated "USA only". I subsequently looked at a Singapore supplier just out of interest as my budget and brain are exhausted for the time being. I will probably end up with a simpler Orient power save indicator automatic some time in the future.

I take your point about the CA's white on white but we all wear watches by circumstances and mood. I go to meetings regularly and generally wear black faced watches like my Citizen BM8430 or my SKA (thanks again for identifying it) or SMY Seiko kinetics which allow me to glance at the time. I have drawn up for fun and some self-indulgent justification a list of my 18 "active" watches and how I intend to use each of them.

But now this 66yo "semi-WIS" is going to withdraw from the field for a while.

All the best, thanks a million and cheers.

Hi Foxbat,

In the early 2000s, Asian market Seikos were available exclusively from Southeast Asian and Hong Kong based sellers. Things have changed since then, with a few enterprising Far East based watch sellers setting up offices in the U.S. to cater for the North American market. Such watches, including your SNK315K Seiko 5 are considered parallel imports from Seiko USA's point of view.

The Orient CEY04002B is a watch that's worth saving for, because it's a lot of watch for the asking price. There is also a Japan market, limited edition model that uses the identical movement but sells for USD2,000. I've seen the watch in person and have taken photos of it at my regular watch store. After a year sitting on the shelf, the watch was returned to the distributor as nobody wanted to spend that much on a "mere Orient" watch.

If I could offer some advice, it's better to save up towards something that's more unique rather than going for quantity for your collection! Take it from someone who's owned a little over 80 timepieces. :-)

Quartzimodo

Oh dear, Oscar Wilde is winning!

After your last advice I internetted Orient automatics and you are of course right, they are a great idea. The reviews from far and wide are universally, or almost, glowing.

I have ordered a FEU07008DX as a starter, just over $100 delivered and very interesting looking. As to the CEY04002B, what about the slightly more expensive CFA05001B? I prefer the look of the latter and the specs seem very similar.

My only problem with having a surfeit of automatics is keeping them all going. I know you say it's not really necessary but an Orient site suggests they should be wound at least once a week to keep the lubrication constant.

It's also suggested that it is best practice to keep an automatic on your wrist for eight to 12hours a day. Obviously with a reasonable number of watches, including potentially five automatics, that won't happen.

As usual, I look forward to your invaluable advice.

Hi Quatzimodo

I got the FEU and to my surprise and mild disappointment it turned out to be a FEU07005BX instead of the 8D; the former is thicker, heavier and mineral rather than sapphire.

One pleasant surprise is it features a Breitling Navitimer, or copy. The manual doesn't explain it but googling naut and stat did.

I took you advice, sort of, but went for the CEY04003W0, as you might have foreseen. Unlike you I do like the white on white look; my Citizen CA0021-53A is a particular treasure.

Thank you for all your expertise, advice and interest. After $2000 or so I've done my dash and reached a respectable 20 watches so it really is time to stop!

i have, since bought new a seiko quartz divers 150m s/n 531231 and these other numers 7548-700f stainless steele japan. any info on this still great working time piece will be greatly appreciated, value,cost new and year made.i am getting older and cannot remember when i bought it. THANKS in advance for any help, p.s. love your site,richard

Hi Michael,

Congratulations on buying both (wow!) Orient watches. :-) The model FEU07005BX is most probably a recent model as I haven't been following developments of watches for some time. The scale that's printed on the edge of the dial is an E6B Flight analog computer which works on the slide rule principle. On watches today, the E6B scale is mostly for aesthetic/decorative purposes as even single engined Cessna/Piper pilots use digital flight computers for navigation. I have several watches with the E6B scale on them and never bothered to learn how to use it, lol..

Your purchase of the white dialed CEY04003W0 didn't come as a surprise to me (I was nevertheless elated that you chose this model) as from your past comments, you like white-on-white watches. I have only three or four white dialed Seiko models, but their index markers are black, providing some contrast. It's a good thing that you selected the CEY0400 series, because the small perpetual second hand departs from the traditional long sweep second hand on your other timepieces. Due to its short hand, the individual ticking motion is not discernible to the eye and this gives it a fluid-like motion like the second hand of a Seiko "Quiet Sweep" wall clock or a Seiko Spring Drive watch.

My advice is not to buy too many watches within a short span of time, unless they are on the endangered species list (read: vintage/discontinued). Spacing out your watch purchases will give you time (pun not intended) to enjoy your most recent purchase.

The CFA05001B is a newer model to the CEY0400 series; it sports a different caliber than the latter. Modern mechanical watches don't really need to be worn all the time - there are millions of unsold automatics sitting in retail stores all over the world that haven't been "shaken" in six months or longer, but they still work nicely. You don't need to buy an automatic watch winder unless you own some exotic Swiss mechanical with complications like a perpetual calendar. Such watches can have complex setting procedures, that's why their owners invest in watch winders to avoid the hassle of setting these watches.

Enjoy your new watches in good health! :-)

Quartzimodo

Hi Rick,

You have one of the more collectible Seiko quartz diver's watches. The 7548-700x series are generally well liked by most Seiko dive watch collectors and a Pepsi-bezeled 7548-700F can fetch between USD200 to USD250 depending on the condition and originality. The 7548-700x is commonly believed to have influenced the styling of the SKX007/SKX009 series, automatic divers which appeared in the mid 90s. Your watch was fully made in Japan by Seiko's Suwa factory on March 1985.

The five jeweled, 7548 movement is robust and long lived. It requires an Energizer 301 or Seiko/Maxell SR43SW 1.55 silver oxide battery, with a 3-year lifespan.

thanks for the compliments! :-)
Quartzimodo

Hi Quarzimodo

Thank you for your encouragement and advice.

I agree I have dived in rather precipitately. Fortunately I have decided to stop at 20 with the two Orients. I had expected to stop at 18 but your salesmanship for the Orients was so excellent that I had to expand my collection accordingly. My philosophy is not to have a conventional collection of collectable watches but to be able to have a cross-section of horological ideas and to wear them all at different times, with the possible exception of the Seiko 6139-8002 (still being repaired) and the Citizen 49-9714, both of which have sentimental, rather than practical, value.

I now have five Eco-drives, five automatics, two kinetics (after my purchases over the past three months I agree that too many kinetics would cause problems), three HRMs (as a diabetic I have to keep fit and my weight down) and five assorted quartz watches, of which the star is my 1979 Citizen 49-9714 SF8 calculator; the un-star is my fake G-Shock GA-100, which the G-Shock cognoscenti want me to throw in the rubbish bin but which actually excites my sense of humour.

Incidentally, taking the ideas together of old watches and fakes (or more kindly replicas) I recently googled the serial number of a ten year old Citizen Eco-drive I bought in Singapore in 2002. It turned out to be a BM0730-59A; when I googled that name I found it was discontinued by Citizen some years ago and has become the model for replicas! An ironic turn of events given my recent mania.

I was interested in you description of what I called the Breitling Navitimer derivative. Having googled "stat naut" I found a website that told me how to use it for multiplication and division. I will never use it for navigation as my car and GPS will do that but it will occasionally be useful for rough calculation, mile to kilometre conversion and currency conversion.

So as you advise I have decided to call it a day for a while. I shall enjoy my watches, both old and new, and rejoice in the great advice you have given me.

Just finishing emptying my mother's house so it can be sold. (She's in an assisted living facility). I ran across a Seiko with the numbers 7N01 5C39. I'll probably pass it along to one of my children. I'm not even sure if it's a man's or a women's watch or if it has any value. The serial number is 880742. Can you help?

i purchase a seiko UFO 6138 0011 and i want to know the fabrication date..the number on the back is 448900..thats mean mi clock is from april 1974?

Hi Pablo,

Yes, your 6138-0011 is from April 1974. It's easy to date 6138 automatics because they only existed in the 1970s. Sadly, as quartz technology became more prominent, Seiko decided to cease production of affordable automatic chronographs in favor of digital watches and quartz chronographs.

cheers,
Quartzimodo

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i have seiko of my grandfathers.. i dont know weater that seiko is origional or not.. behind watch have writen 750592.. is that serial number origional... and under that 6309-5060 what its means..

Hi ganes,

Without looking at photos of your grandfather's 6309-5060 I can only assume that it's an original Seiko watch. From the serial numbers I would say it's from May 1977.

The watch was fully made in Japan by Seiko's Suwa factory and its design harks from the late 1970s.

Quartzimodo

Hi I have a Seiko Sea Lion M55, serial No.6301500. can you possibly date it for me.
Bob

Hi Bob,

Sure thing. If you have the Sea Lion M55 Weekdater, it's most probably a 6119-851x model. It should have "waterproof" markings on the caseback and the 7-digit serial number dates this watch to March 1966.

hope this helps and wear it in good health,
Quartzimodo

I have a Seiko watch serial No.848466 TL on the back it says water resistant, stainless steel, 6309-8020, number on the strap, Z152. On the black face Day/date, Seiko Automatic 17 jewels, Japan 6309-813LR can you date it please.

I have a ladies seiko watch that belonged to my mother in law. serial number 038150 stainless steel+base metal gold tone in color. since the first number is 0 would that mean 2000?

I have a men's Seiko Lassale watch. On the back it says 5L14-600H with A3 in a box. S/N 760088. On the face under the 6 it has "Japan 5L14 6000T", do you know anything about this watch?

Hi Bob,

Your Seiko 6309-8020 is an early model dating from April 1978. The 6309 movement came out sometime in 1976 and those that were manufactured before 1984 were made in Japan. Later 6309 models were Hong Kong assembled until they were discontinued by the late 1980s.

hope this answers your question,
Quartzimodo

Hi Todd,

The movement and caseback number must be known before one can date a Seiko watch. For example, if your mom-in-law's watch has a movement that was discontinued by before 2000, it would be from 1990, 1980 or even 1970. Seiko made quite a few movements in both quartz and mechanical forms with differing market lifespans, therefore it's imperative that the movement and caseback numbers are identified first.

Quartzimodo.

Hi Don,

Seiko Lassale watches are not really my forte and I've never really paid much attention to them. The Lassale sub-brand was conceived when the K. Hattori Company (Seiko) bought the Jean Lassale watchmaking company in 1982. At the time Seiko had proudly designed several ultra wafer-thin quartz movements and they fitted them to the initial Seiko Lassale models.

Towards the end of the 1990s when the Lassale lineup was totally discontinued, Seiko had widened the range of Lassale from simple gents' dress watches with complicated quartz movements such as the 7F68 moonphase and Seiko's own 7T32 chronograph movements. I've never seen a Seiko-branded 5L14 watch before and in my best opinion, the 5L14 was exclusively used in the Lassale sub-brand. Without seeing an actual photo, your watch could be from June 1987 or 1997.

The 5L14 is a simple 3-jeweled, quartz movement with no calendar or second hand (its sister 5L15 caliber has three hands though). It requires a Seiko/Maxell SR920SW 1.55V silver oxide battery which is rated for 5 years between battery changes.

There's an interesting post on Seiko Lassale watches which might interest you here.

cheers,
Quartzimodo

I have a sieko 7t36-6a39 watch, it has chronograph-quartz on the face, it has the moon phase shift option ser number 937542. could you tell me the value on this watch

Mate,

Just picked up a Seiko 5 with Thai numbers today. I believe it's made in '99 but would value your input.
serial: 997768
other numbers: 7009-876A
It's a little beauty.

Hi Nongbrown,

Your special Thai numeral, Seiko 5 would be more likely from September 1989 and not 1999, because the 7009 caliber was discontinued by 1996 and was replaced by the current 7s26 caliber.

It might interest you that the Muang Thong company (Seiko Thailand) in Bangkok has the biggest influence on Seiko watches in Southeast Asia, outside of Japan. It has the decision making clout to issue special editions for the local Thai horology market.

Seiko Thailand has been responsible for coming out with the legendary SKZ201K Seiko 5 40th Anniversary divers back in 2003, the highly collectible Yellow, Red and Blue Monster diver's models and one-off, Seiko watches commemorating their King Bhumibol's Anniversaries, such as this one.

Therefore a Seiko watch such as yours was likely to have been originally sourced in Thailand and not sold in other countries.

cheers,
Quartzimodo

Hi, Quartzimodo. Long time no speak.

Thanks for the plug. That thread I wrote has had a lot of traffic over the last couple of weeks - partly because it's also hot-linked in various Jean Lassale related threads on TheRolexForum, Watchuseek, TZ-UK, Orologio&Passioni, etc.

Any queries you get on Seiko 7Axx's (particularly 7A38's) and the related Orient, Yema, Cartier Ferrari calibers, please feel free to point them in my direction. ;o)

Regards, Paul.

Hi Paul,

That's really great! I've been off the watch scene for sometime and only stumbled upon the 7A38.com forum site recently. Back in my SCWF forum days, there was very little interest (or none at all) in Seiko Lassale watches and information on them were really scarce. The content material on the Seiko Lassale models was the most comprehensive that I've read in a long time, great job on the article. :-)

The Seiko 7A28 and 7A38 are two quartz chronographs that I'd really like to get my hands on; but very good condition ones are hard to find nowadays.

cheers,
Quartzimodo

Hi Danny,

What you have with you is a Seiko model SEJ010J, which was fully made in Japan and was possibly made on March 1989, at the time the moonphase quartz watch fad began. I'm sorry I can't put a value to your watch, because 7T36 models are considered rare even in the used market. Some 7T36 models which belonged to the collectible, "Age of Discovery" series may fetch at least USD450 in excellent condition, perhaps a bit more.

eBay is a good place to investigate the average winning bids or Buy-it-Now asking prices of 7T36 watches. Not all used 7T36 watches for sale will have uniform values as it will also depend on the exact model. Right now there's only one live auction for a 7T36-6A40 on eBay, but it's not completed yet. You might be interested in following the auction to the end to see how high its winning bid will be.

cheers,
Quartzimodo

Hi Quartzimodo

That's great insight and very helpful. Knowing that, I will be on the lookout for a couple more unique items. This one I found at a Thai Army market.

Cheers

Hi Quartziguru

I have recently finally got back my treasured Seiko 6139-8002 (or 8010 - my first question) after five months being repaired (the crystal was the issue, I was told).

Two things:

The model number on the rear says 6139-8002, but on the face the number is 6139-8010. Which is it and is this common? I have had the watch since new, which gets me to my second question.

The watch was bought by a friend for me when he was visiting Port Moresby in 1977. But the watch's serial number is 262996, indicating manufacture in June 1972. Is such a delay unusual or a problem?

Cheers.

I don't see my automatic divers watch exactly. The back of my case has the wave design but it says Seiko water resist Japan A then the serial number 100800. Then from the s/n on the other side is St. Steel 6309-7049 the second hand has a little round thing at the end of it. I have the day and date window and the days are Spanish/English. Does this ring a bell?

I have a SEIKO Quartz 5y23-8a69 serial # 180903 it is a hand me down was stored a few years the battery was removed I need to know which battery it takes & any other info will be greatly appreciated TY

I have a ladies seiko two tone dress watch. The front face says automatc, 17 jewels. The back says 780005 and 4206-0519, water resistant, s. Steel basse, movement singapore. WAS PURCHASED IN Aruba in The late 1990's. What type of battery is needed? Thank you.

we bought seiko watch 5 from someone... it doesnt have box anymore... tha warranty card says... model no. 7009 watch no. 196050.. the no. on the warranty card and the back of the watch do matches... but im still confused if its real SEIKO % watch... please help

Wow! what a great site! Amazing you are, and I thank you!
I need a watch battery and was given this beautiful watch about a year ago but I know it's rather old. I know nothing about watches though, like what is a jewel?

The person who gave it to me says it looks exactly like a Lady Rolex, but I don't even know what they look like either, sooo... I just need a battery. And I'd really like to loosen the band by one tiny piece of gold wristband. Is that possible? I stopped by walmart tonight to see if they would sell me a battery but they told me they can't take the backs off watches anymore, and the size number is inside.

Mine says SEIKO 3Y03-0160 A4, water resistant, Japan M, base metal st. steel back. Does that tell you about what year mine was born? ;) Also on front it has the day and date.
What is the best tool to open the back with? They let me use their tiny screwdriver set at Walmart but I don't see how that could work. not for me anyway.

Any help that you can provide would be just awesome for me!
Thank you sooooo much for this cool message board! You're the best!

how did that ugly avatar get on my post? i hate the color pink, ugh, can it please be changed? help? thanks!

Hi lisamarie,

Thanks for your question and I apologize for not being able to reply sooner. You have a self-winding, mechanical watch which is also referred to as an "automatic" watch. Automatic watches are purely mechanical and are not electronic. As such, they are powered by a tiny main spring that drives the watch mechanism and do not require any battery whatsoever.

In the case of the 4206 day/date caliber, you can actually wind the watch manually by carefully winding its crown in its pushed-in position. The 4206's winding mechanism isn't that efficient therefore Seiko provided an auxiliary hand-winding capability to this movement. Your Seiko watch is a U.S. model and was made on August 1997. By the early 2000s, the 4206 caliber was replaced by the 4207 (with the same features) and is still used in Seiko 5 automatics for ladies.

hope this helps,
Quartzimodo

hell0 quartzimodo,

the watch serial number is 114644. so are you saying that i won't be able to tell if it was made in January of 2001? or 1991? or 1981, etc? and does it matter which year it was made when purchasing a battery for it?

do you recommend a place online to find correct batteries for certain watches? i would buy quite a few for different dead watches I have, if so.

thanks for passing along the excellent advice and experiential knowledge on this subject

Dear Quartzimodo,

I'm Mongkol from Thailand. I has 1 Seiko 5 Sports, Could you please help me to know this watch is original one or replica.

Serial number 230116
7S36-03D0 AO(in square) KY

and have litle card with watch
Ref.SNZF45K1
Cal.7S36, Automatic
Barcode 4954628101266

Thank you for your support in the future

Mongkol

Dear Quartzimodo,

I'm Mongkol again. I saw half circle (inside) it have 3 line

SEIKO TIME CORP
SEIKO
7S36C TWENTY-THREE JEWELS

Thank you again

Mongkol

Sawadee, Mongkol

This is a good question. As far as I know there are no fake Seiko models made like the new SNZF45K with the present 7s36C movement. Therefore your Seiko 5 Sports watch would be a genuine one.

It's made on March 2012 and the SNZF45K is a very recent model.

Cheers,
Quartzimodo

I bought both a ladies Seiko solar and a gents Seiko 5 glass back watch in Dubai last week. The sales assistant wrote the serial numbers on the guarantee but did not say which is for which watch.
The numbers she wrote are PO22PI and KK6211. These do not appear to be serial numbers !!!... Could they be the model numbers?
The number on the ladies watch appears to be 1N1298.
I cannot read the serial number on the gents watch as the bracelet blocks my view.
I am now home in Australia and cannot return to the shop in Dubai.
Can you help me determine which guarantee is for which watch ? Thankyou Valerie

I have a seiko mickey mouse ladies watch that was given to me in the 80's. It has a two toned metal band, a white face, a date square. the serial number is3y030039 and the watch number is 960335. I dont still have the warranty papers, but I do remember that it was water resistant to a deep depth, like 100 ft or more. I sent it to be repaired to CSA and they tell me it is not high grade water resistant, but I have always worn it in water and it never leaked. They want $164 to repair it and don't guarantee it to be worn while swimming. Is it worth the cost to repair? I found your site very informative.

im not sure if you got my question. Judy, about the Mickey Mouse ladies watch.

hi! i liked ur article my mom is big fan of vintage watches and she has a gold plated seiko pendant at the back the following numbers are written ASGP 21-7160 and 6900431 please i need ur help in knowing its re-sale value ! i would be really greatful for ur cooperation! its in best quality and still shiny and lustrous

hi! i liked your article very much im a great fan of collecting watches my mother has a seiko gold plated pendent watch and the numbers that are written at the back are these ASGP 21-7160 and 6900431 im unable to figure out the year of manufacturing is as the numbers are some what confusing please help me with this please i would be really grateful also if you can tell me its re-sale value that would be really nice!

Hi,

it is very helpful for me, i can see it on my seiko chronograph 7t32-6m10, from your table, 6m10, it means 1996 May, and watch number 10, is that right ?

thanks very much

Rudi

Hi Rudi,

It doesn't work that way. 7T32 is the caliber type while 6M10 refers to the caseback model. You also need to know the six digit serial number, with the first two digits identifying the production year and month respectively.

Kindly go through my article again as you've sort of misunderstood my guide. :-)

Quartzimodo

Can you help? I have a Seiko Watch which is an Automatic Day and Date. The numbers on the back are..6619-5413 and 328731. Any help would be very much appreciated by this 75 yr old Gentleman. Thank you.

SteveD

Seiko skz215j1 No:s #1 and 3000#. Date and value please.

Hi k.g.,

You have one of those Limited Edition "Atlas" titanium models. Unfortunately, the exact production date cannot be determined as Seiko does not print serial numbers for its limited edition watches. However, from the various sample photos that I have of this watch I'm certain they were released in the year 2005. The average value of this watch today is from USD325-400 for the "K" version. Although you have the "J" (Japan) variant it doesn't necessarily mean that collectors are willing to pay over USD400 for one.

good luck with the sale! :-)
Quartzimodo

Hi SteveD,

Your old Seiko watch is likely to be from the Seiko Sportsmatic or the Seiko 5 Sportsmatic Weekdater lineup. The 6619A is a 21-jeweled, self-winding movement that was first introduced in 1964. Your watch was made on February 1973. Although the 6619 Sportsmatics are collectible timepieces, only those in very good condition might sell for $300 US Dollars on eBay, usually no higher than that.

It's good to know that your faithful old ticker is still happily with you for the last three decades! :-)

Quartzimodo

I have a woman's gold watch number 7N83-0049 when was it manufactured?

Hi. I have a seiko 5 21 jewels, self winding watch I purchased at the PX in Bien Hoa Vietnam in December 1969 for 19.95 cents. On the back it has the numbers 6119-8090, and the serial number: 990468. Mine has the regular numberals that glow in the dark with a black face. I have tried to find another with just the numerals on it, but have only seen the ones with the "slash marks" instead of numbers. I have been told that these were only sold at the military exchanges in southeast asia during the vietnam war. Is this true? Hope you can shed some light on this for me. Oh, by the way, I still wear it everyday. I have it cleaned every year and have the crystal changed every two or three years. Still works great. Thanks.

Hi Demina,

Thanks for asking, but the 6-digit serial # found at the back of your watch tells the production year and month. 7N83-0049 is NOT the watch's serial number, but its movement and caseback code. I also need to know the 6-digit numbers before I can (hopefully) tell you when it was made. :-)

Quartzimodo

Hi Charles,

Seiko made several models based on the 6119-8090 design but most of them have the more common, baton styled hour markers. However an acquaintance of mine who collects vintage Seiko watches, "Cobrajet" posted about finding one with Arabic numerals in this discussion. I assume the one which he purchased is similar to yours. :-)

With regards to the Arabic numeral 6119s being sold "exclusively at military PX stores", I have found no historical evidence to support this theory. I highly doubt that Seiko produced the Arabic numeral dialed 6119-8090s just for the U.S. Army's Post Exchanges but it's not unusual for any watch with Arabic numerals to be popular with servicemen as they're much easier to read the time. Therefore I presume such watches (and Seiko diver's models) were in great demand; therefore you were likely to find Seiko watches with Arabic numbers at your PX.

BTW, your Seiko 5 was made by the Suwa factory in Japan on Sept 1969, therefore your watch was practically brand new when you bought it. The 6119 is a robust caliber and maintained frequently it can last a very long time. Good to know that your daily beater is still happily ticking to this day! :-)

Quartzimodo

Hello Quartzimodo
I have Seiko # 236481 and 6139-6002 needing repairs.I have looked all over for info on this watch with no avail, can you help? It is Chronograph automatic.

Thanks

RB

Hi loved your artical, got a few questions about a Seiko i just got....

7d56-0AA0= kinetic perpetual?
910477=if i understood your artical right my watch was made either 89/99/09 in January and should have been nr 477 made that month?
[A4]= ??
4A081-CC= ?? (That serial is stamped on the armband)

so am i right in my guess about year&month?
Second how can i tell if its a genuine Seiko or a better made fake?

Stay safe //Matt,Sweden

And approximate current price for the above 263481

opps sorry the number should be 236841, please disregard the previous note.

Thanks

RB

Hi! I have a Seiko watch that has the serial number POP 1E2O-OO7O. 511119. Could you please give me an idea of how old this watch may be? Thanks Susie

Hi Susie,

I can't figure out what "POP" means but your actual watch caliber and caseback type is 1E20-0070 (zeroes, not the letter "O"). It's made in Japan on January 1985 making it 27 years old . Does your watch have stylish beads as its bracelet?

hope this helps,
Quartzimodo

Hi Ralph Boggs,

I have a dark navy blue 6139-6002 myself. :-) The 6139-6002 is one of Seiko's classic automatic chronographs from the 1970s and it's a crowd favorite - especially the rare, yellow dialed "Colonel William Pogue" version. Colonel Dr Pogue was an astronaut who wore the Seiko 6139-6002 on his missions aboard the old Skylab 4 space station in 1974. Partly due to the significance of the yellow dialed 6139-6002 having been worn in space by Col Pogue, the yellow dialed version fetches a higher price on the used market.

The 6139 is a column wheel type chronograph and shares the same oscillating balance weight as the more complicated, 6138 chronographs. Unlike comparable Swiss chronograph designs, the 6139's stopwatch should be left running at all times whenever the watch itself is running. Many Seiko watchmaker experts advocate leaving the stopwatch running as this actually lessens wear-and-tear on its vertical column stopwatch clutch mechanism. In contrast, Swiss made chronographs incur more wear if the stopwatch is used more frequently, but opposite is true with the 6139/6138 chronographs.

BTW, your watch was from March 1972 and was made by the Suwa factory in Japan. An average condition, 6139-6002 generally fetches between USD200-250 on eBay, with super mint condition ones twice that amount.

Quartzimodo

Hi Matt,

Thank you for the compliments. :-) With regards to your multiple questions on your new Seiko SNP019P (black hands on silver white dial), SNP022P (gold toned hands) or SNP036P (black dial, rose gold case):

1. 7D56 is the caliber code for the Kinetic Perpetual, while 0AA0 is the case design code.

2. 910477 means your watch was manufactured on January 2009. The 7D56 caliber wasn't designed until the late 2000s. Your watch was the 478th piece from the production line as the very first one would have the number "0000". Any Seiko watch bearing "0000" as its last four digits would be the first piece assembled for that particular caliber/case and for that particular month and year.

3. [A4] is believed to be the caseback design or official Seiko procedure to remove the caseback, but nobody really knows for sure.

4. 4A081-CC is the watch band part number.

Kinetic Perpetual watches like the 7D56 are very difficult to copy due to its very complicated movement. There's not much incentives for counterfeiters to duplicate a 7D56 and they would rather make knock-off Swiss replicas, where the real money is. As long as you did not buy your watch from a replica watch site, you should be safe. :-)

Quartzimodo

Thanks for the surprising information on the Seiko yellow dialed "Colonel William Pogue" version. I have this one but as I said it needs a little work But as far as the information supplied, I did not know any of this. I have not seen another Seiko like this any where and I receive many compliments on it wherever I go. Thanks again.

Ralph

Hello Ralph,

You're most welcome :-) . I dug up some further information on your watch and the original Seiko reference number for the yellow 6139-6002 is AH035M. In the old days, Seiko didn't use a standardized nomenclature for their watches and they used both letters and numbers, e.g. 54332M, 55029, AV017M, etc making model typing very difficult. Because of the non-uniformity, Seiko collectors found it easier to refer to a vintage model as "6138-0030", "6105-8100", etc instead of their original reference numbers. Beginning from the mid to late 80s, Seiko decided to use "S" as the first letter for every Seiko model made and the second and third letters representing the movement or caliber family.

I hope your watch's date quickset mechanism is still working (by depressing in the crown fully until it clicks and advances the date). Many old 6139 chronographs that were largely uncared for over the decades have faulty or sticking quickset mechanisms. Do take note never to set the day/date between 9pm and 2am as doing so can damage the calendar advance mechanism.

Take care of your watch!
Quartzimodo

Many thanks for this new info about time setting, this I did not know. ( Alas ) too late. The watch functioned with precision until the stem broke and shot out and was lost. I am attempting to either have it repaired at Seiko America or purchasing a damaged one for parts.

Ralph

Hi again Quartzimoto, you are 5 star in my book. But I have another question for you>
Are there any other Seiko watches that have the same parts as the 6139 series, namely the stem, and do you know the part # for the stem for the 6139? Opps can the mold be cleaned from the indices on the hands and face?

Many thanks

Ralph

Hi Quartzimodo..

I have a seiko watch with the description on the back as stainless steel 2205-0190 water resist 156574 Japan B, and on the face it states Seiko automatic 21 jewel hi beat. Can you give me any info on it please.

many thanks soozie

I have a seiko duo-display quartz Cal.H249 alarm chronograph
original leather strap
On the back..base metal top st.steel back
071662
H249-5049 with an R in a box
japan-a
w
very stylized s or lightening bolt
dial is roman numerals with hatching border under numerals
viewing window on bottom, below numerals
bottom right-hand corner in teeny weeny ...H249 with 4
teenier numbers
time changer is gold with black bezel
face/case is gold colour on front, square face/case
any help will be greatly appreciated..if it's real, will get it running, if not...oh sigh.
many thanks

Hi There!

Yes indeed my Seiko watch 1E200070 has a beautiful beaded bracelet with a tiny face which makes it tricky to read after cocktail hour! I just love this watch. Thank you so much for your reply! Kind Regards, Susie

Hi Ralph,

I've never heard of anyone sending vintage Seiko 6139s (or any mechanical watch from that era) to Coserv (Seiko USA's service center) for repairs. Unless there is at least one Seiko USA watch technician in his late 70s who happens to still work for Coserv (which is highly unlikely), I doubt they will undertake repairs for your watch. Parts for long discontinued calibers are likely to have dried up many decades ago and it is normal for watch repairers to cannibalize parts from junked watches of the same caliber.

As a policy, Seiko repair centers only use new or New Old Stock (NOS) parts, if available. If they're unable to procure the part from Seiko Japan, they will return the watch to you. Another factor is repair expertise. If you could travel back in time to 1980, you're still likely to find Seiko USA technicians who are proficient at repairing 6139 chronographs and getting the required parts. Today's Seiko watch repairmen are generally trained in recent model, quartz or Kinetic watches, not complicated mechanical chronographs from a bygone era. It's much easier and less labor intensive to completely replace a defective quartz or Kinetic module than to overhaul an automatic chronograph.

Although Seiko still makes automatic chronographs today, these watches are exclusive to the Japan market and as such, could only be repaired by Seiko Japan technicians. Note that since the mid 1990s, Seiko only makes expensive, luxury mechanical chronographs (like from their Brightz, Credor and Prospex ranges) and these calibers are definitely not in the same league as the once affordable, 6139 or 6138 calibers. So who undertakes the repairs of discontinued mechanical chronographs today? Hobbyists and third party, watch repairmen who are specially trained in servicing vintage Seiko calibers. A mechanical watch repairer who services solely Swiss mechanical watches e.g., Omega, Breitling, IWC may be able to repair your 6139-6002, but it's better to send your watch to those with vast experience in vintage Seiko timepieces.

Offhand, the only U.S. based vintage Seiko watch repairman that I know is Mr Bob Thayer, who charges reasonable labor fees for watch repairs and cosmetic makeovers. Note that I have no affiliation with Mr Thayer but he seems to get good feedback recommendations in Seiko watch forums. The 6139-6002 should be very familiar to him and he should be able to advise you as which parts need replacing.

hope this helps,
Quartzimodo

Guess there is good news and bad news concerning this watch.
Do you have any way for me to contact Mr. Thayer?

Thanks for the up date and all your time, you are the best!

Ralph

Hi Elizabeth,

There are NO fake H249 caliber Seiko watches that I know of; nobody ever counterfeited them in the first place. You have a genuine old Seiko watch, and I believe it dates to July 1980. The lightning bolt symbol signifies that this model was made by Seiko's Daini factory in Japan. Whether it's possible to get it running again depends on the extent of the malfunction; and if the entire quartz module needs replacing and there are no replacement movements to be found (remember, this is a long discontinued model) then the effort might not be worth it.

Here's an example of an H249 duo-display watch I found on the Internet. :-)

Quartzimodo

Hi Ralph,

Bob Thayer can be contacted at bob@bobthayerjr.com according to his website. Hope everything works out for you, sir! :-)

Quartzimodo.

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Hi

Great article I have a 1969 Sports Diver 6106 8100 and would be greatful if you could give me some history on this model and if possible an approximate value. I am currently having some restoration works undertaken as it was my father's watch.

Thanks

Hi, Quartzimodo:

Your article was very helpful for me. Since I as unable to see the model of my watch in the dial, is possible that you can tell me the model of it and when it was manufactured? Do you think the watch is original?

The data I have gathered from the watch is as follows:

Caliber: 7S26 02W0 A4 KY 7S26C
S/N: 231140

Thanks very much in advance and for the article.

Luis

Hi again Quartzimodo:

I forgot mentioned the color of the dial (black) and the fact that the clock have day/date at 3 o'clock.

See us.

Luis

Hi Simon,

My sincerest apologies for the belated response as I've been away for over a week. I happen to have a silver-white dialed model of the 6106-8000, which was my very first vintage Seiko watch that I bought. The 6106-8000 (8009 for U.S. versions) are slim bodied sports watches with a bi-directional, non-ratcheting bezel. As far as I know, they came in at least five colors: charcoal grey dial, yellow, blue, emerald green and silvery white. The dial is of the acrylic kind, not mineral glass. Most examples come with "Water 70 Proof" markings on the dial, and "Water Proof" engraved on the caseback. So far I have not seen any examples of the 6106-8000 with "Water Resistant" markings, suggesting that they were discontinued by the middle of 1971.

I don't think the 6106-8000 models have any significant history behind them; and they were one of Seiko's many 6106-based gent's watches like the old "Seiko DX" lineup. Like the date-only 6105B caliber, the 6106 hacks when you pull out its crown for accurate time synchronization. The 6106-8000 is considered a collectible vintage Seiko watch, although they don't fetch a lot on the used market. I've seen sellers listing them for sale between USD150 and USD200, depending on the watch's condition. It's quite usual to see some of these watches riddled with scratches on the rotating bezel.

While I doubt any Seiko service center still keeps stock of the bezel, fortunately the acrylic crystal is of a common design and can be substituted with a generic one. When I found my silver 6106-8100 at a watch store, it didn't have its original stainless steel bracelet and the crystal had to be polished to remove the scratches. Unfortunately the retailer's watchmaker over-polished it and made the crystal too thin and uneven. I had the acrylic crystal replaced with a generic one and I can't see any difference between it and the new one. :-)

It's a good idea to have your dad's watch restored and keeping it within your family. The 6106 is a robust movement which should last decades, requiring minimal routine servicing. I hope you have had your watch regulated for timekeeping accuracy.

best regards,
Quartzimodo.

Hi Luis,

Seiko made many variations with a black dial and a 3-o'clock crown based on the 7S26-02WO and I don't have a Seiko 5 catalog, therefore unfortunately I can't tell which exact model that you have. However, the fact that your watch has the 7S26C movement means that you have a very recent model Seiko 5. It's from March 2012. It cannot be from 2002 because Seiko was still making the older 7S26A movement back then, so it has to be the year 2012.

Without seeing pictures of it (try uploading a photo of your watch to Tinypic.com), I can't determine if your watch is a fake but the probability is that you have a genuine Seiko 5. Counterfeiters usually don't bother to replicate newer Seiko 5 models with the 7s26C movement as it's not worth their trouble and investment.

cheers,
Quartzimodo

Hello,

I was very pleased to find your wonderful website this afternoon.

I was wondering if you could assist me regarding a Seiko watch that I purchased from an antiques shop in Lyndhurst, Hampshire in June of this year?

I paid £70.00 for it. It said that it had been fully serviced. The face states that the watch is a Seiko Automatic Waterproof 17 jewels. The code on the back states: 7625-8033. 8D4472

Kind regards,
Claire Bates

Hello,
I have long been an admirer of Seiko watches and own a number of the 7t32 range. I recently purchased a 7t32-6F69, with the serial number 438915 on the back. The face is a very deep red colour with ruby coloured subdials.
The bracelet appears to be plated and is quite badly worn. It also appears fairly lightweight. The casing is, on the other hand, bright and intact.
I was wondering if you had any information on the watch and if you were aware if a replacement bracelet might be available for this type.

Hi,
My dad has got an old seiko watch..
At its back it is mentioned as follows..
Seiko
Water Resistan
271051
AP
Stainless steel 6309-602A [A5]

Can u pls help me with the manufacture month and year and if possible what would have been its cost at that time.

Thanks...waiting for ur reply

I have my mothers gold seiko watch. I has 14K on the back of the works and on the clasp on the band. I can't seem to find the watch anywhere. It has to be pre 1976. The band is smooth and the dial has no numbers. It has a red stone on the winder. Thanks, Randy

Sorry the stone is blue. The numbers on the back are
14-7309-a
140188

Hi Quartzimodo,

Please can I tap into your amazing knowledge of Seikos - I've got in front of me my father in laws Seiko and I'd love to know a bit more about it.

It think it's a fairly generic version but I'd love to know roughly when it was made and pass it onto my partner. My father in law died almost 20 years ago so it must be at least that old.

The serial number is 870771 and the 8 digit code i 5Y23-8A11. Interestingly I note that the 8 digit code on the face is different to that on the back - it's 5Y23-8A2M.

Any help you can give me would be amazing.

Thanks,

Hannah

Hi Hannah,

Thanks for your comments and compliments. :-) Your late father-in-law's watch is a Seiko "SQ" dress men's watch and you are indeed right - it is a generic Seiko watch from the mid 1980s. The quartz caliber has one jewel in it and requires a Seiko or Maxell SR920SW 1.55 volt battery, with an operational life of 3 years between battery changes. The caliber has been discontinued decades ago.

This watch was fully made in Japan, as with most Seiko quartz watches before the 1990s. The serial number indicates that it's from July 1988. The "5Y23-8A2M" is a unique dial code which separates this model from its other siblings with different dial colors or design; but for reference purposes Seiko collectors refer this watch as the 5Y23-8A11 rather than the dial code.

As this watch may not have had a service history, it is a good idea to have it checked by an authorized Seiko dealer and have its moving parts lubricated plus the rubber seals replaced if you intend to give it to your other half. It's important that a 24 year old quartz watch to be serviced to have it ticking in good health. What is more crucial is that a quartz watch with a dead battery should have its battery replaced as soon or possible or completely remove it. Fully exhausted batteries are very prone to leakage and its chemicals can corrode the battery compartment or other vital circuits in the watch module.

hope this helps! :-)

Quartzimodo

Hi Randy Montgomery,

Your mom's watch is one of Seiko's earliest women's quartz models. It uses the simple six-jeweled, Caliber 14A quartz movement and requires an Energizer 364/363 silver oxide cell. I'm inclined to say that her watch was made on April 1981 as Seiko did not make quartz watches for ladies as early as 1971. At the time the Japanese watch manufacturer only had mechanical watches for their ladies' watch lineup, while men's quartz watches were still in their infancy.

This watch is a U.S. export model and the "blue stone" on the winder is what is called a cabochon crown. Vintage Seiko women's watches don't carry much value but as your mom's watch is made of 14K solid gold, its value today will be influenced by the gold metal itself rather than the watch.

hope this answers your question,
Quartzimodo

Hi finto lawrence,

Thanks for your question. Your dad's watch was made by Seiko's Suwa factory in Japan on July 1982. The 6309-602A was one of the many low cost, Seiko 5 automatics sold during that era. I'm afraid I don't know how much this model cost back then but today its value should be around USD100, depending on its condition. :-)

best regards,
Quartzimodo

Hi Brian,

The 7T32 is a crowd pleaser amongst fans of Seiko's quartz chronograph models and Seiko produced some very attractive models from this caliber. It's too bad that the company decided to discontinue the 7T32 with the 7T62 for simplicity and cost cutting reasons. I have three 7T32s myself and wished that I had more of them but New Old Stock 7T32s that are desirable are very hard to find today.

It might be still possible to get a replacement bracelet from the Seiko UK service center. If they don't have one, they'll need to request the replacement bracelet from Seiko Japan. If the latter has none in its parts warehouse, you're out of luck. :-(

Your watch was made on March 1994 in case you're wondering.

hope this helps,
Quartzimodo

Hi Claire,

Thanks very much for the compliments. :-) You have a rather vintage Seiko date-only automatic, dating back to December 1968. The movement itself was one of Seiko's earliest automatic movements and the 7625 caliber was first introduced in 1964. It's one of Seiko's collectible calibers but its value today will vary from model to model. The 7625 has a rather leisurely beat rate of 18,000 beats/hour (compared to the more common 21,600 bph in today's automatics), which translates to 5 ticks per second. When mechanical watches are concerned, the higher the beat rate the better its overall accuracy is.

I'm not really sure if you paid the right price for it, because if the antique shop added the cost of labor in repairing/servicing the watch (labor is expensive in the UK) that might account for its asking price. This is one of Seiko's evergreen classics and it's said that the recent Japan model, Seiko Spirit SARB031 was heavily influenced by the 7625-8033 that you have.

hope this helps,
Quartzimodo

HI there wonder if you could help this old fart?

seiko watch purchased about 1970 .on the back of the case
WEST GERMAN
MADE CASE
18 KT
6N0060
4110-5149-D

Any help would be appreciated. Seiko Quartz

Thank you so much!! So grateful for your help.

Hannah

Hi Edd,

You have an early Seiko gents' watch from the mid 70s and it was manufactured by Seiko's Suwa assembly plant on November 1976. The 2-jeweled 4110A caliber was first introduced two years earlier (1974) and was followed by the improved 3-jeweled, 4110B movement. It takes an Energizer #384 silver oxide cell and Seiko rated its accuracy to +/- 15 secs per month, which is the standard rate for common quartz watches to this day. Unfortunately, I have not seen examples of a 4110 based quartz watch before, therefore I can't give more information beyond that. :-(

I'm unable to comment about the "West Germany" made case as this is the first time I've heard of a vintage Seiko watch that has a caseback sourced from Europe. It could be because your particular model was a U.S. export model and during the time Seiko contracted solid gold casebacks to a West German manufacturer.

cheers,
Quartzimodo

Quartzimodo,
Thank you very much for the information.
Hopefully I can source a replacement strap through Seiko, as the case and crystal are in almost perfect condition.
Once again, thank you for your assistance and for providing an excellent site.

Regards
Brian

Thanks for your precious info mate...
Great goin...Thanks Thanks a lot for your reply...
You are truely a seiko guru

Hello, I bought a Seiko H566-5029 in 1983, what an awesome watch. I have just bought on e-bay an unworn one with orginal box, paper and manual. What a find!!

I recently bought a used Seiko watch for $75 without knowing much about it. I tried entering the model # in the watch finder section on Seiko's US website and nothing turns up. Maybe you can help me out and tell me if my money was well spent or not.

4D3606

ST. STEEL BASE METAL BEZEL

WATER RESISTANT MS 7N43-9041 [A4]

Thank

Hi my seiko is SNDA77p1 the serial number is 7T92-0KD0
but I coulden't find anything. would u help me plz?
thnx

What a site,don't know how I came across you,but was searching,and was very interested,as I have 2 Seiko watches, one given to me just before my son was born 1969.stainless steel,blue face, and just tiny lines for the numbers,and an unusual shape,,diamond/sqaure but rounded corners if that makes sense,,on the back ..670343 11-8320 wgp back Japan 8 ~

not sure what this 2nd one is made of gold tone,oblong case,gold face,lines for numbers, on the back,sgp back, 940259,,,11-4860,Japan 8~, just interested to see what you think,and to find any info,both are wind up watches
Thank you for reading

Hi, great info but if you could can help me , I have a Seiko I bought in 1970 when I was in Vietnam had it all these years and still works great, not sure what the numbers mean on the back first line of #'s 6106-6006 second #'s 178298. It's got a black face DX 25 jewels, also has both the day of the week & numeral day of the month displayed. It is self-winding also. Any info would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks Mike

Hello can you help me date my dads watch please its number 653805 there is another number 0903-8109 its as metal base and st.steel back I
t is also water resist - G
Can you help me please thanks Cheryl

Hi Mike Miller,

According to the serial number, your watch was made on July 1971 therefore it would be an anachronism if you purchased it in 1970. :-) This is assuming that the caseback is original to the watch and had not been replaced with some other 6106-8000's caseback.

The 6106 is the day/date version of the date-only 6105 caliber, which made the 6105-8000 and 6105-8100 diver's watches legendary. The 6106 was commonly found in the Seiko 5 and Seiko 5 Sports line. I have a Seiko 5 Sports 6106-6040 myself, which I bought on eBay for its sporty character. Your Seiko 6106-6006 was one of the many 6106 generic Seiko 5 dress models in its era and doesn't carry any historical significance. It's just like one of the hundreds of the 7s26 based, Seiko 5 dress models you can find today.

The movement was considered a low end one back then, but unlike the non-hacking 7s caliber, the 6106 can hack (stopping the second hand) for convenient synchronization to a time signal. Today, Seiko automatics that can hack are generally those with upmarket calibers that cost a lot more than a 7s26 or 7s36 Seiko 5/Seiko 5 Sports watch.

Good to know that your Seiko 5 DX is running fine to this day sir. :-)

Quartzimodo

Hi Chris,

Your Seiko 7N43-9041 is an older model and Seiko's websites don't feature discontinued or generic models. That's why you can't find it on the Seiko USA website. I'm not familiar with the 7N43's history but photos of the 7N43-9041 suggests that it was a 1990s design. Therefore I'm inclined to say that it was made on Dec 1994.

At USD75, it's a fair price to pay. Enjoy your new Seiko in good health! :-)

Quartzimodo

Hi Rapisa,

The SNDA77P is a mid-to-late 2000s model that uses the 7T92 quartz chronograph movement. I'm not sure I understand your question though. What kind of information are you looking for? BTW, 7T92-9041 is the caliber/caseback code and NOT the watch's serial number.

Quartzimodo

Hi Kaye5,

The Caliber 11A was one of Seiko's mechanical (non-automatic) movements that was made for ladies' models. It was first introduced towards the late 1960s and had a production run up to the mid 1970s. My mother still has her Seiko Cal 11A watch which still runs to this day, although she doesn't wear it anymore. None of Seiko's Cal 11A watches were water resistant, therefore take care not to let them get wet.

I don't know much about these watches but I can tell you that your 11-8320 was made on July 1976 while the other one, the 11-4860 was manufactured on April 1969
. The second watch is the one that you received before your son was born. If you intend to wear these vintage Seiko watches on a daily basis, I would recommend that you have them serviced by a competent watch repairer. They should also be regulated to ensure the best accuracy. Also, don't attempt to overwind these watches; when you feel the winding crown is tight don't wind them any further as you might break their mainspring.

best regards,
Quartzimodo

Hi again, Quartzimodo.

Yesterday I found a Seiko watch that I liked very much. I bought it and I believe it's from 2007 because the markings are:

Model: SGED01P1 (It appears in a tag attached to the watch's bracelet)
S/N : 781381
Caliber: 7N42-0DL0

The face is white, the center is light grey and has the section over the date can be seen augmented.

Generally, I don't buy watches with a big case but this one catch my eye. The only thing that I found weard is that the third hand adveance 1 second first and then it go ahead two seconds. I need to take the watch for a calibration or something like that?

Since the time I bought my Seiko 5, I liked the watches from them but I don't know if I will start a real collection of Seiko watches.

By the way, this new watch costs me about US$ 149,80 in Chile (the price in local currnecy is 74.900 pesos). This was the freak info of the day, :-)

Thank you very much for running this site and your patience.

See us and take care.

Luis

Hi there,
I have a Seiko 6020-5380 SN 071161, could you tell me the production year?

Hi Luis,

Congratulation on your new Seiko SGED01P dress quartz watch. :-) Yes, it is from August 2007 because it has the letter "D" after the SGE prefix which makes it a fairly recent model. The earliest model based on the 7N42 caliber would be the SGE001P Seiko Sports SQ 150 which hails from the late 80s/early 1990s.

The 7N42 caliber has a 5-year battery life and since your watch likely to be on its original factory battery it's time to replace it. The 2-second interval jumps that you notice the second hand is doing is the movement's EOL (End of Life) indicator, signalling that the battery power is almost gone. This EOL indicator is nothing new - all analog quartz watches from the 1980s have this feature.

You paid a really good price for this NOS Seiko watch; given the inflation and the rising prices of current Seiko watches. Enjoy the new timepiece in good health! :-)

Quartzimodo

Hi antonio,

I don't have a picture of a Seiko 6020-5380 like your watch, but I've seen a Seiko Quartz 6020-5059 which looks like a late 80s or early 90s design. My best guess is that yours is from July 1990.

best regards,
Quartzimodo

Hi,
can you please help me in dating this Seiko watch and what this model is .

Back case reads .
713849
stainless steel
water resistant KY 7S26-3170 (A4)

bracelet lugs reads : Z1571-3

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Best regards

Hi,
can you please help me in dating this Seiko watch and what this model is .

Back case reads .
713849
stainless steel
water resistant KY 7S26-3170 (A4)

bracelet lugs reads : Z1571-3

Best regards

Hi,
please help me in dating this Seiko watch and what this model is .

Back case reads .
713849
stainless steel
water resistant KY 7S26-3170 (A4)

bracelet lugs reads : Z1571-3

REGARDS

Good day,
In August 2012 I bought a new old stock Seiko Baby Arnie H556-5029 for US $200, It came with the orginal box and manuals. The serial no is 443109 (1984/April). Question- is this a sought after model, and what would be the realistic value be? The watch has never been worn.

Comment by Quartzimodo Admin on October 16, 2012 (3 days ago) @ 11:52 pm

Hi antonio,
I don't have a picture of a Seiko 6020-5380 like your watch, but I've seen a Seiko Quartz 6020-5059 which looks like a late 80s or early 90s design. My best guess is that yours is from July 1990.
best regards,
Quartzimodo

is similar seiko 6020-5059 but I think this is the Lassale model

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Hi,
I have a seiko 6139-6010 with a serial no. 9n1311. I think this dates it to november 1969,if so am i correct in thinking this was the first year of production. The watch was given to me in 1976 if this helps. many thanks.

SEIKO QARTZ

SEIKO
ST.STEEL SGP MIDDLE
SGP BEZEL ST. STEEL BACK
7320 5030 RO
JAPAN A
2NO778

Kakav je ovo sat, pukla mi je metalna kop?a gdje da je popravim

Hi danni,

Thanks for writing in. :-)
I apologize for the rather belated reply as I had to find the time to sift through my old pictures of Seiko 5s to identify your exact model. Your Seiko 5 watch was made on January 1997, judging from the all-stainless steel caseback. It uses the first generation 7s26A automatic movement and its model code is SKXN71K. This is a really nice looking watch with a simple, yet classy looking dial and hands. This model has been discontinued for a decade, I think.

cheers,
Quartzimodo

Hi Clive,

Congratulations on scoring big on your Seiko H556-5029 "pre-Arnie" analog-digital diver's watch. :-)

I think you paid a very fair price for this model, although it's not the Seiko H558-5000/5009 watch which actor Arnold Schwarzenegger wore in his films "Commando" (1985), "Raw Deal" (1986) and "Predator" (1987). I've seen ads for H558-5020 divers (in very mint condition) going for around USD250, while second-hand, actual "Arnie" shrouded divers are going for over USD700 on eBay recently even in so-so condition. So you can see that the H556-502x models aren't that valuable although they're nice looking watches.

There will always be folks who like your watch for what it is, but since Arnold didn't choose this model for his past movie roles it doesn't carry the same "collectible status" that the H558-5000 has. :-)

hope this helps,
Quartzimodo

Hi Mark,

Yes, you're correct. Your Seiko 6139-6010 was made on Nov 1969 and should have "Water Proof" markings on its caseback and "Water 70 Proof" on the dial. The 6139 caliber debuted in 1969 and outlived its "bigger" sibling - the 6138 chronograph by at least two years. I remember seeing examples of late model 6139s dating to either 1978 or 1979 while the final Seiko 6138 models seem to be from 1977. By the late 1970s, Seiko was pushing its quartz technology to the masses and they probably thought that automatic chronographs were going out of style (how wrong they were!).

It's a rather sad affair because owning a modern Seiko automatic chronograph today means having to fork out thousands of dollars for one of their prestigious Seiko Prospex, Brightz or Credor models. Automatic chronographs are now regarded as status symbols rather than affordable, garden variety timepieces in the 1970s. There's nothing to stop Seiko from re-creating their 6139 and 6138 movements if they wanted to, but quartz chronographs are much cheaper to make and to service.

I have two 6139s myself: the popular 6139-6002 (Pepsi bezel) and the lesser known 6139-7012. In my opinion, one of the components to look out for in a vintage 6139 is its quickset, push button day-of-the-week calendar mechanism. Many 6139s that are not cared for seem to have stuck quickset mechanisms.

cheers,
Quartzimodo

Hi there quartzimodo! I need your help with something, I have a Seiko 5 thats serial number is 9D0610. No if I understand correctly, according to your information that would mean it is made in the 90s, but the watch is originally my grandfather's watch and he still remebers where he bought it in the late 60s, so I would really like to know what the serial number says, because I know this watch was made well before the 90s but not exactly when.

Hi, Firstly; thanks for such a great informative site.
I'm in UK. I have had a Seiko watch unused in a drawer for over 12 years & looked for info. Markings are: 3D 05 85
and 2A32-5040 followed by a square box containing RO
Also marked JAPAN-M
PDP middle SGP bezel st.steel back
I bought this abroad in the 80's. I haven't seen anything similar despite trawling through many hundreds of pages online. It's rectangular in brushed st. steel with gold plated bezel trim, hands, knob & non-numeric dial indices. The st.steel strap is matching with sgp gold bars.Also has date function. Quite slim & very elegant.

From your info it seems to be Dec 1983 & made in Japan.
Having got it out of drawer; I fitted new battery & it runs perfectly. Am I right about date etc. Is this a fairly rare model?
Regards John

Hi Eric,

A Seiko 5 that uses a 7s-caliber (usually 7s26) movement is manufactured from 1996 onwards - that's because the 7s26 was introduced in that year. In the blog article, I was highlighting contemporary Seiko 5 watches, not vintage models. However, the Seiko 5 range (including the Seiko 5 Sports and Seiko 5 Speedtimer) actually originated circa 1969 and the watches were been fitted with a plethora of movements, depending on the model.

If you're looking at the year 1969, in that year Seiko used the 6106, 6119, 6139 (chronograph), 7015, 7017, 7019 to name a few. That's why it's important to know the caliber/caseback code which you'll find stamped at the back of the watch. :-)

Quartzimodo

Hi John,

Your estimate of the production date is correct (Dec 1983) as the 2A32 quartz caliber was an early 1980s movement and was mainly fitted to gents' dress watches. I have no idea whether it's a rare model in its day but if there very few surviving watches of this model today, I guess you can say that it's "rare". :-) Do note that the rarity of a model doesn't always equate to high resale value, because the value of the watch is largely determined by the collector's market.

cheers,
Quartzimodo

Hye..can you enlighten me about my seiko 410335 @ 5931-5470A..in what year it was made..?its a normal or rare watch..?Its stated 30k yen on its price tag..Im still wondering about this seiko watch..it doesn't have neither date nor day..just a simple watch..LoL

Hi Mohd Afiq,

The 5931A caliber first came out around 1978 but your watch was made on Jan 1984. This was made by the Seiko Daini factory in Japan and was part of the Seiko Chario line in the early 80s. 30,000 JPY was equivalent to RM300 (USD127) back in 1984 - therefore this was considered a mid-priced Seiko watch in that year. I think this model is rare today, but not really that collectible. The watch runs for 2 years on a single Seiko/Maxell TR721SW battery.

cheers,
Quartzimodo

Hi,

I notice you excellent knowledge over Seiko watches and as I'm trying to find out more for mine
you are the BEST person to ask :)
Mine is model V401-4671 R 2 Mov't JAPAN seral.781910 gold woman's watch with white face .I think is August 1987 am I correct.

Thank you in advance from Cyprus.

Hi Niki,

I'm inclined to say that your Seiko V401 (I think you quoted the dial code, instead of the caseback code) was from Aug 1997 because of the "Mov't Japan" text on the dial. This is because throughout the 1980s, quartz Seiko watches were fully made in Japan. It wasn't until the early-to-mid 1990s that such watches were assembled by Seiko's factory in Singapore, instead of Japan. A fully Japan-made Seiko model would have only "JAPAN" inscribed on the dial, not "Mov't JAPAN".

Thanks for the compliments, appreciate it. :-)
Quartzimodo

Hi, Love your site. I have a vintage Seiko SQ. The numbers on the face are 4004 0903 -811Y. The back case reads WATER RESIST G STAINLESS STEEL 0903-8109 6D1920. If you can give me any info on this watch it will be greatly appreciated. Thank You

Hi Quartzimodo and thank you for the site. I bought a very interesting Seiko quartz Dolce Exceline necklace watch. The back of the watch appears to be enamel and has the painting of a flower. The dial is gold colored and engraved. It was given as a gift to an American executive by a Japanese Steel company. It comes with a certificate in Japanese with the following numbers:
AQD 894
1400-027
170257

I believe it was produced in the 80's. Thank you so much for what you do!

Hi,

I have my brothers watch ( he was killed in a plane crash in 1990) it is a seiko automatic 17 jewel black face with chrome case I assume. Water resistant ser # 702270

On the back it also says "base metal top st. Steel back 7009-8139

Any information you can tell me would be SO appreciated,

Thank you

Jack

Please help me find this men's Seiko chronograph Quartz price serial 951539 and model 7T36-6A29 (A4), I would like to know the year it was made and approximately what it would be worth today

I have a men's Seiko Chronograph Quartz watch, serial #951539 and model 7T36-6A29 in a box after the model is A4. I would like to know where this watch was made, what year and how much it would be worth today
Thank you

Hi ,
I have Seiko 2A32-5140 watch with an R0 , I found it in my drawer :P . But the funny thing I noticed is that it has a credor's crest in the place of 12 , so I was wondering whether the watch is a real Seiko credor or a rip off :) .
P.S : Article was really informative.

Please let me know if the following is an antique watch and approximately what it is worth

Seiko Chronograph Quartz, serial 951539 and the model is 7T36-6A29 (A4)

Thank you

hi ,

Loved this site very informative . I have a Seiko watch whose serial number is 2A32-5140 , but I noticed that at the place of 12 on the dial , there is a credor crest ( after searching a lot about the symbol , I came to that conclusion). So can you please tell whether it is a real Seiko credor or a rip-off .

Regards

My deceased husband bought me a Seiko watch in a 14K gold case. On the back is:
Seiko
Base Metal
St.Steel back
2P21-5140 (RO) is in a box
Japan V
604879
Could you please tell me something about it.
Thank you

Hi Mohammed Abdul Monem,

As far as I know, all Credor watches must have the name "Credor" or "Credor Seiko" on it. There was a tiny trident-like crest which Seiko used for some of its dress models in the 80s but such watches are not from the Credor range. They're ordinary Seiko watches. There are also NO Credor rip-off models that I know of; because the brand itself isn't as popular as "Seiko" worldwide.

Apologies for the delayed reply,
Quartzimodo.

Hi Maria,

Your Seiko 7T36-6A29 "moonphase" alarm-chronograph was manufactured on May 1989. Its original model number is SEJ012J and was fully Japan assembled for the U.S. market. The 7T36 caliber is similar to the equally discontinued, 7T34 model except that the latter doesn't have the moonphase window on the dial.

I'm sorry but I don't know what it's worth today. Check eBay from time to time in case people put up their 7T36-6A29 for sale.

Apologies for the late response,
Quartzimodo

Hi Susan,

Your Seiko 7T36-6A29 "moonphase" alarm-chronograph was manufactured on May 1989. Its original model number is SEJ012J and was fully Japan assembled for the U.S. market. The 7T36 caliber is similar to the equally discontinued, 7T34 model except that the latter doesn't have the moonphase window on the dial.

I'm sorry but I don't know what it's worth today. Check eBay from time to time in case people put up their 7T36-6A29 for sale.

Apologies for the late response,
Quartzimodo

Hi Melanie,

Thank you for the question. Let me preface by saying that used Seiko ladies' watches (especially quartz models) don't fetch much of a value on the second hand market. Seiko made countless models of ladies' timepieces in the past and an antique Seiko ladies' watch isn't as collectible as e.g., a vintage Omega or Rolex ladies' watch from the 1970s.

I did a quick check on eBay and noticed that used Seiko 2P21 models generally fetch less than USD100. Since yours is made of 14-carat solid gold (as opposed to gold plated), it should be worth "a few hundred" dollars. Your watch will unfortunately be valued based on the price of gold today rather than for its collectible status or historic significance (it has none). In other words, it is the gold content in your timepiece that makes it valuable rather than the watch itself.

Therefore, I would advise you to have your Seiko watch assayed by a goldsmith to get a more accurate estimate of its (gold) value. Note that while the watch's case is solid gold, its matching bracelet is usually gold plated.

In terms of history, your watch carries the reference (model) number: SZL110J. I'm unable to determine when Seiko first introduced the 3-jeweled 2P21 caliber, but examples of other 2P21 based watches suggest that they were from the 1980s. Therefore my best guess is that yours was made on October 1986. Your timepiece requires an Energizer #379 or Maxell SR521SW battery and is rated to run for 2 years between battery changes.

hope this answers your questions and I apologize for the delayed reply.

Quartzimodo

thanks so much for the information, I would now look to sell it.

Marla

Hello Jack Daniels,

Thanks for writing in and I apologize for the late response. I'm sorry to hear about your brother's tragic accident and I'm sure he appreciates that you're taking good care of his watch for him.
The Seiko 7009 caliber had a long production run from the 1970s until the late 1980s. While I'm not familiar with the model that you have, if the dial and caseback doesn't have the word "JAPAN" on them, it's from October 1987 and was assembled in Hong Kong, with the movement assembled in Singapore.

Try to avoid getting the watch wet because if the watch hasn't been serviced and had its rubber gaskets replaced before, its water resistance is mostly compromised.

wear the watch in good health,
Quartzimodo

Hi,
I have a Seiko 5 Quartz 7009-3040 F nr 706076 and i've been trying to date it.
It has no day/date indicator.
Thanks a lot,

Vita

Hi Vita,

Seiko did make quartz Seiko 5s sometime in the late 70s or early 80s, but I can tell you this: Firstly, the 7009 is an automatic movement with a day/date calendar and certainly not quartz. Since the watch was given to you by a friend and you are not the watch's first owner, the actual history of the watch is probably unknown.

Secondly, all Seiko 5 watches have a day/date calendar - even the short-lived, Seiko 5 quartz models. There is no such thing as a Seiko 5 that has no day/date window, regardless of the export market. I strongly suspect that your dial is either an aftermarket or a non-genuine Seiko one. An all-original 7009-3040 should look like this. :-)

FWIW, based on the serial number alone all I can say that the caseback was stamped on October 1987. That's all I can guarantee. However, since your watch is a "Franken Seiko" (put together with non-Seiko parts or parts not original to the exact model), there's the element of probability that your caseback is NOT original to the watch too. Once the caseback have been switched or replaced with another, dating a Seiko watch would be meaningless.

Quartzimodo

Hi Quartzimodo,

First, thanks for the informative site! Thanks to you I can now date my Seikos accurately.

I know my idea of "collectible" must differ from others, as I could find no questions or comments regarding what Seiko advertised in the US as "Intelligent Quartz" watches. I refer mainly to the 8M25 and (in my case) one 6M13 caliber watches. I love the multi-function hands, etc.

Specifically, though, I have a question about numbers that don't appear on my watch at all, and maybe you can clarify this for me. I Know one of my watches is a 8M25 movement with a 6000 R dial and a 6009 case. I also know (thanks to you) that it was manufactured in October of 1990 (these were only made late 80's to early 90's, I think).

However, I've also seen the number SDT002 applied to this watch. Would this designate a model number? I'm also curious as to whether or not my two "Age of Discovery" models have similar numbers that I've simply never seen.

An information would be appreciated. Thanks much!

Paul

Oops! Follow up to my last.

Just discovered that at least one of my "Age of Discovery" watches (another 8M25) also has an SDT number (i.e.: SDT134).

Still don't know what it means, though...

Paul

my seiko auto, has 7 numbers top numbers are 7625-1991 lower numbers are 7802463. any info,please,i bought it about 1975.

I have seiko auto,whith 7 numbers7625-1991 other numbers are 7802463.bought it about 1976 £12.date only.servived house fire still working.any information please.

Hi my husband brought a seiko watch and we wanted to know more about it we have looked online and can't find any info at all

It's Seiko automatic 5 numbers on back of case are 073973 inside says 17j it's square shaped face with jewels on the numbers 6 9 and 12 it also on the day it can be English or Arabic

Any info would be so great full thank you
Katie brown x

Hi Katie,

Seiko made the Seiko 5 models using varying calibers according to its era. A 17 jeweled movement might suggest a 6309 or a 7009, for example. I need to know the caliber and caseback code (stamped on the rear case) of the watch. The serial numbers alone can't tell anything about a Seiko timepiece.

Awaiting your reply,
Quartzimodo

Hi Paul M,

Apologies for the delayed response. Yes, it is correct that Seiko 8M25 caliber models carry the suffix "SDT" and therefore, SDT002J is its actual model number. There were more gold plated/gold toned 8M25 models made compared to all stainless steel versions, strongly suggesting that the 8M25 watches were targeted at the "affordable luxury" dress watch market. Your 8M25-6009 was indeed a watch from 1990 (this is also a U.S. designated model) and certainly not from 1980. Seiko didn't have the watchmaking technology to come up with all-analog, complicated quartz movements that early.

I think it's rather odd that Seiko stamped or engraved the model number on your watches as this was not their normal practice. In certain cases, the model number would be affixed as a peel-away sticker on the caseback, not permanently stamped. The Age of Discovery (AoD) range of Seiko models are quite rare and were available in several, often complicated quartz calibers like the 7T59 with a 1/100sec analog stopwatch and a dual time zone hour indicator. I happen to own a 7T59-6A0A but it's not from the Age of Discovery collection. One automatic high beat caliber made it into the AoD series - the very much sought after, 4s15 automatic while there rest comprised of a plethora of chronographs, world timers (5T52), early Kinetics and simple quartz calibers.

While AoD models certainly have its own collector's niche, many Seiko collectors that I've met tend to shy away from gold plated or gold toned vintage watches. If you intend to treasure your 8M25 and 6M13 ("SHE"series for the international export market, "SCLS" for the domestic Japan market) timepieces, have them inspected every six years for best results. It's unlikely that Seiko Japan still stocks on spare movements for these two calibers as they have been discontinued decades ago. :-)

In case you haven seen this site before, you might be interested in this collector's treasure of AoD watches! :-)

all the best,
Quartzimodo

Quartzimodo,

Thanks for all the info. I have actually seen the AoD site you linked to. The collector has certainly worked hard to acquire so many representations of the group.

I may have been unclear as regards the model numbers of the watches I mentioned. They are not, in fact, stamped onto the watch cases. I merely stumbled upon them in some print advertisements for the various watches. One of my 8M25s did indeed have a small sticker on the back with an SDT model number as well as the price. Interestingly enough, it was stamped "SAMPLE" (apparently after the blue protective cellophane was in place), and according to the eBay seller, was a working salesmen sample. It does work, in fact, as opposed to the non-working samples (cases, dials and hands without any internal movements) I've also seen on eBay.

I will take your advice on regular inspections. I know some of these watches are prone to failure of whatever micro electronics which power their brains. I fear if those go bad, there will be no reviving the watch(es). I'll have to hope for the best.

Thank you again!

I have seiko quartz watch, 1980 vintage, which is still going well. It gains about one second per week.
Caliber 8223-8010. Water resistant stainless steel.
The problem is that the'glass' is cracked which makes it no longer waterproof. Can it be safely replaced?

Dear Quartzimodo,

First of all your journal is amazing! Thank you for all the information you have provided!

I would like to ask you about my grandfather's seiko 5 374057 TL 6119-8430 21 jewels because I don't seem to find much information about it around the web. From your journal I managed to find out that it's probably dated from July 1973? 63? 53? I'm not sure! Also the date dial seems to be in arabic and as far as I know my grandfather must have obtained it while in Syria!
can you please help me?

Thank you in advance! :)

please if you can help me I have watch its very old of Seiko I need help serial number 607314 model sgp back st.steel 6319-7010

My Seiko man's watch has the number 6003085 on the back. I think it is a Sportsmatic model with a black face and gold ring inside the silver case. I has the day and date. Can you tell me what year it was made and if it is automatic or battery? I think it was maybe made in 1966 and I just had it worked on. It is working great so far and was my father's. I am 72 so it must be pretty old. Thanks, Ken

Hi,

I have a Ladies Quartz Seiko: Ser #913398, other # 2623-0199.
Gold w/gold or Champagne face, gold bracelet band. Can you tell me the date it was made, approx value, and, what type of battery it requires.
Thank you so much for taking the time to do this for all of us.
Liz

Hi HELP I have a Seiko V701 with a Texaco Star T logo on the bottom juging by the serial # it is a 1973 made in Jan. it is gold with a gold band and black face. Matching numbers on the band.
Thanks

Hi Ken Marsh,

The Seiko Sportsmatic is a mechanical automatic watch, not battery operated (quartz). Any old Seiko models with the name "-Matic" on them are always automatics, e.g. Lady-Matic, Sportsmatic. You are truly correct in saying that your dad's timepiece was from 1966; October 1966 to be exact. :-)

cheers,
Quartzimodo

Hi ali sharifeh,

Sorry for the late reply. Your Seiko 6319-7010 watch should be from October 1986. That makes it nearly 27 years old! :-) SGP stands for "Seiko Gold Plated" which means its base metal is stainless steel and not solid gold.

cheers,
Quartzimodo

Hi Margarita,

Thank you for the compliments. I apologize not being able to reply sooner.

Your granddad's old Seiko 5 was indeed from July 1973 and I congratulate you on getting its production date correct! The 6119 caliber only appeared towards the end of the 1960s and therefore 1953 isn't possible. In the 50s, the Seiko brand was called "Seikosha" and they were all hand-winding watches, not automatics.

It's common to find real Arabic numerals in Seiko watches that were marketed to the Middle East, even today. I have one Seiko 5 with a glow-in-the-dark dial and Arabic numerals which was purchased in Saudi Arabia over six years ago, but have never worn it. I bought it as a souvenir for myself. :-)

hope this helps,
Quartzimodo

Hi, I have Seiko watch,(reading off case) Japan A S/S Seiko 7002-7001 A1 scuba divers S# 571020.

Do you know what year this was made,thanks.

Stan

Hi Stan,

Not many folks own the 7002-7001 diver's watch as it's not as collectible as e.g., the 6309-704x or the 6105-800x/6105-811x diver's models. The 7002 departed from Seiko's long running tradition of having a day/date calendar on its automatic diver's watches since the early 1970s. It's been said that Seiko used lower quality dials and hands for the 7002-7001 watches and it's hard to find one with a pristine looking dial and hands, unlike the 6105/6306/6309 diver's watches which used more robust dial and lume material.

The 7002 series was a replacement for the slim cased, 6309-729x divers and appeared in the early 1990s. Therefore your watch should be from July 1995.

cheers,
Quartzimodo

Hi Quartzimodo, Thanks for all the info,i must be lucky then as my watch is in mint condition,it looks like it`s just come out of a shop :-) ,thanks again.

Stan

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i can not find a thing about my watch anywhere. I was hoping you might be able to help me.
its a seiko sq100 quartz watch
serial# 650799
5h23-6070
i think its an 86' mens watch but apart from that, its all i can find. i really hope you are able to help me out, thank you very much in advance

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Hi Quartzimodo I have been collecting Seiko's for many years now and I found your original post not long after you put it up (end of Dec 2010)I have found it invaluable and not just the original information that you posted but the questions and answers have been a wealth of knowledge. There's no need to ask a question because if you look hard enough you will find the answer there.
It's funny you know when you started this you were very knowledgeable about Seiko's but since you've had to do all this research to answer peoples question's I think you are probably the foremost authority in the western hemisphere :-)
Thank you for all the time and effort you have put into this, from all the people that haven't asked you a question

Hi, how about my 7002, 5D0367? would it mean December of 2005? For a 7002, is it 1985 or 1995?
Thanks a lot...

Hi Rosco S,

Thank you for the compliments and for dropping by again. :-) Actually I'm from the Far East but I learned quite a lot from my watch collecting friends from the western hemisphere myself. I have to give credit where it's due and it's from the enthusiastic folks who are actively posting in Japanese watch forums to this very day.

Admittedly, this blog layout is getting old and it's not that search friendly. I have yet to get down and find a suitable theme that also caters for mobile devices. Many of the questions and answers found here have grown repetitive because I can't remember which ones had been answered previously. The problem with identifying old Seiko watches is that it's not an exact science. I rely on my previous knowledge found in watch forums and from the thousands of watch photos I have saved into my computer for years as a guide. It is just impossible to find all the models that the company has made and no Wiki exists that lists each and every model manufactured. :-)

cheers,
Quartzimodo

Hi George,

This is a relatively easy question as the 7002 was a popular automatic caliber in its time. The 7002 was a 17-jeweled low cost movement that superseded the 6309 in the early 1990s and is a date-only display caliber. It had a very short market lifespan and was phased out in 1996 by the 7s26 caliber, which is still in production today. As such, your watch is definitely from December 1995.

hope this helps,
Quartzimodo

Hi Kerry,

I'm not sure if my previous reply got through to you, but I'm posting my reply again to give the benefit of the doubt. :-)

You're absolutely correct in guessing that your SQ100's production date: it is from May 1986 and was the 800th piece that was manufactured for this model for the same month and year. Unfortunately I don't have much information pertaining to your exact model; and the few examples of a 5H23 based Seiko that I have is a Seiko SQ150 Sports 5H23-637H. I don't know the timeline as to when the 5H23 caliber was discontinued because the 5H23-637H's caseback design looks like one from the early 1990s.

Your watch was made in Japan by Seiko's Suwa factory as it's from the mid 1980s. The movement has 3 jewels and uses the Seiko/Maxell SR920SW (or Energizer #371) with an operating life of 5 years between battery changes.

best regards,
Quartzimodo

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